Into the Impossible With Brian Keating
Sir Roger Penrose | The Emperor’s New Mind: Consciousness & Computer | INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE Podcast (#311)
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- Human understanding cannot be reduced to computation, as Gödel's theorem and the limitations of algorithms show.
- Conscious perception and quantum processes may be connected, suggesting that consciousness emerges from deeper explorations of physics.
- 'The Emperor's New Mind' tackles complex concepts and challenges prevailing views on consciousness, computation, and artificial intelligence.
- Quantum computing has the potential to surpass classical computers, but ongoing research is necessary for further advancements.
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Understanding is not Computation
The speaker presents the argument that human understanding is not a computation by referencing Gödel's theorem and the limitations of algorithms and computations. The distinctive nature of human comprehension, particularly in mathematics, challenges the notion that our understanding can be reduced solely to computational processes.
Conscious Perception and Quantum Processes
The podcast delves into the connection between conscious perception and quantum processes, positing that consciousness emerged through the probing of the laws of physics at a deeper level than currently explored. The speaker suggests that the role of microtubules, particularly A lattice microtubules, may play a part in understanding conscious actions and that future research could shed light on the relationship between quantum mechanics and consciousness.
The Journey of 'The Emperor's New Mind'
The podcast revisits 'The Emperor's New Mind,' discussing its reception since initial publication and the impact it has had on various fields. The book tackled complex concepts such as consciousness, computation, and artificial intelligence, challenging prevailing views and engaging with topics like Gödel's theorem, quantum mechanics, and cosmology. The speaker reflects on how the book has both resonated with readers and faced criticism, particularly in relation to its theories on consciousness and non-computable physics.
Exploring Quantum Computing and Future Possibilities
The podcast briefly explores recent developments in quantum computing and its potential impact on various fields. While acknowledging the progress made, the speaker notes that current quantum computers are not yet universal machines and still have limitations. The future holds the possibility of further advancements in quantum computing, potentially leading to devices that go beyond the capabilities of classical computers. The speaker highlights the importance of ongoing research and experimentation in areas such as state reduction and quantum coherence to unlock new insights and possibilities.
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On 6 October 2020 The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences has awarded the 2020 #NobelPrize in Physics with one half to Roger Penrose and the other half jointly to Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez.
I was delighted to have had this chance to discuss life, physics and everything with my friend Sir Roger Penrose, who endorsed my book Losing the Nobel Prize back in 2018. Well, now Sir Roger has WON the Nobel Prize.
We discussed the first popular science book your host Professor Keating ever read: The Emperor's New Mind: Concerning Computers, Minds, and the Laws of Physics https://amzn.to/306hUG1 and Shadows of the Mind: A Search for the Missing Science of Consciousness https://amzn.to/2QFbt9M
Sir Roger Penrose OM FRS (born 8 August 1931) is an English mathematical physicist, mathematician and philosopher of science. He is Emeritus Rouse Ball Professor of Mathematics in the University of Oxford, an emeritus fellow of Wadham College, Oxford and an honorary fellow of St John's College, Cambridge.
Penrose has made contributions to the mathematical physics of general relativity and cosmology. He has received several prizes and awards, including the 1988 Wolf Prize for physics, which he shared with Stephen Hawking for the Penrose–Hawking singularity theorems.
Penrose sat down with Professor Brian Keating to discuss artificial intelligence, consciousness, cosmology, and the many fascinating developments in physics since the publication of The Emperor’s New Mind in 1989.
Additional Talks by Sir Roger Penrose:
- Conformal Cyclic Cosmology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1WH_SkazQ&t=2284s
- New Theory of Dark Matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlSMME-Cl5g
- Physics and Fantasy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaIdJMxP6bA
www.twitter.com/RogerPenrosePhy
Summary of Professor Prenrose Concepts from Think Like A Nobel Prize Winner: https://briankeating.com/roger_penrose.php
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