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Client Marina Dick, a clinical counselor, discusses her use of Team CBT to address insomnia. Marina's approach emphasizes the significance of sleep for mental health and highlights how rumination can disrupt sleep patterns. By combining empathy, positive reframing, and self-compassion, Marina empowers clients to understand their thought patterns, address their struggles, and improve their sleep quality.
Utilizing cognitive behavioral therapy methods, Marina introduces clients to tools that help manage intrusive thoughts and promote better sleep hygiene. Techniques like paradoxical double standard challenge clients to reframe their negative thoughts with self-compassion and understanding, fostering a more balanced approach to addressing sleep-related concerns. By committing to consistent practice and self-reflection, individuals can regulate their thought patterns and improve their overall sleep experience.
Marina guides clients in cultivating empathy towards themselves and others struggling with insomnia, promoting a compassionate mindset that eases nighttime rumination. By reframing negative thoughts into constructive self-dialogue and exploring the emotional roots of sleep disturbances, individuals can develop healthier sleep habits and reduce the impact of persistent worries. With a focus on building self-awareness and fostering a positive mindset, Marina's approach encourages clients to reclaim control over their thoughts and improve their quality of sleep.
Practical strategies for managing negative thoughts and improving sleep were discussed in the podcast. One key technique highlighted was the use of role-play scenarios to practice responding to rumination and critical thoughts at night. By externalizing these negative voices and engaging in self-compassionate dialogue, individuals can learn to set boundaries with their thoughts and promote better sleep hygiene. Additionally, the concept of distraction practice was introduced as a tool to redirect focus away from intrusive thoughts towards calming activities like focusing on breathing or muscle relaxation.
The podcast delved into the concept of image substitution as a cognitive exposure technique for managing rumination. By visualizing serene and positive images in place of distressing thoughts, individuals can create mental spaces of calm and relaxation to aid in sleep. Moreover, the importance of optimizing sleep environments through techniques like breathing exercises, muscle relaxation, and comforting surroundings such as blankets and pillows was emphasized. By applying strategies like image substitution and creating peaceful mental landscapes, listeners were guided on fostering better sleep habits and addressing nighttime rumination effectively.
Today we feature Marina Dyck, a TEAM-Certified Clinical Counselor in private practices in Swift Current, Saskatchewan, Canada. She works with individuals and families struggling with trauma, anxiety, depression, and relationship issues. She combines the latest research in neuroscience, powered by TEAM-CBT, and what she calls the "whole person" approach.
Marina describes her innovative TEAM-CBT treatment for patients with trouble sleeping. Many of them toss and turn at night, unable to turn off their anxious and agitated brains, so they ruminate over and over about problems that are bugging them. Sound familiar?
Here’s David’s quick, step by step overview of Marina's treatment approach, which is based on the steps of TEAM and the Daily Mood Log.
Step 1. Let’s imagine you’re the patient (or the shrink), so you start with a brief description of the Upsetting Event at the top of the Daily Mood Log. It could be something as simple as ”Lying in bed for several hours, unable to get to sleep because I keep ruminating about a report I have not finished for work,” or some other problem.
Step 2. Identify your negative feelings and estimate how intense each one is on a scale from 0 (not at all) to 100 (the worst.) For example, you may be feeling:
Step 3: Record your negative thoughts and how strongly you believe each one from 0% to 100%. For example, you may be telling yourself:
Step 4. Identify the distortions in these thoughts, like All-or-Nothing Thinking, Fortune-Telling, Should Statements, Emotional Reasoning, Magnification, and more.
Now, if you’re a shrink, after you’ve empathized, do the A = Paradoxical Agenda Setting or Assessment of Resistance. If you’re a general citizen, you can do Positive Reframing. In other words, instead of trying to make your negative thoughts and feeling disappear entirely by pushing the Magic Button, you can ask two questions about each negative thought (NT) or feeling:
Example. In the current example you are 95% anxious and panicky about your report for work as well as the fact that you can’t relax and fall asleep. Could there be some positives in your anxiety and panic? For example, these feelings might show
You could make similar lists for other feelings as well, like feeling down, guilty, discouraged, angry, and so forth.
At that point, you can set your goals for every negative feeling.
For example, you might decide that 15% or 20% might be enough anxiety and panic, and that 15% shame would be enough, and so forth. You can record your goals for each negative feeling in the goal column of your Daily Mood Log.
This is much easier than if you try to reduce them all to zero by pressing the Magic Button. And even if you could, then all of the positives you listed would go down the drain, right along with your negative thoughts and feelings.
Instead, you can aim to reduce them to some lower level that would allow you to relax while still maintaining your core personal values.
Now we’re ready for the M = Methods portion of the TEAM session.
You will enjoy this portion of the podcast. Marina led Rhonda in three classic TEAM methods: The Paradoxical Double Standard Technique, the Externalization of Voices, and something Marina calls Distraction Training, which is actually a mix of Image Substitution, self-hypnosis, and relaxation training. Essentially, you focus on something positive and relaxing, as opposed to ruminating about all you have to do.
This approach will come to life when you listen to the podcast, and I think you will agree that it IS innovative and significantly different and from 99% of what is currently sold as “insomnia treatment!”
Marina emphasizes that you, the client, will have to agree to spend 15 to 20 minutes per day doing written work with the Daily Mood Log, or all bets are off.
In addition, I would like to add that you and your shrink (or you and your patient) will have to find effective ways to combat each patient’s ruminations and negative thoughts, because we’re all quite different and our problems will usually be unique. In fact, that’s why I (David) have created way more than 100 methods for challenging distorted thoughts.
But here’s the basic idea: When you learn to CHANGE the way you THINK, you can CHANGE the way you FEEL as well as the way you SLEEP!
Thanks so much for listening today, and happy dreams!
Marina, Rhonda and David
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