Emily and Amelia Nagoski, co-authors of the bestseller Burnout, delve into the epidemic of burnout that has left many feeling like zombies. They liken stress to trash that must be regularly disposed of to prevent life's stench. Through personal stories and expert insights, they discuss the importance of understanding stress cycles and completing them, while offering practical strategies for managing daily pressures. The conversation also emphasizes the need for community support and setting boundaries to cope with modern life's overwhelming demands.
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Emotional Depletion
Glennon and her sister found themselves emotionally depleted, feeling like "robots" going through the motions of life.
They noticed similar feelings among friends, described as "zombie", "robot", or "ghost".
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Burnout as a Never-Ending To-Do List
Anne Helen Peterson describes burnout as a never-ending to-do list, where joy and obligations become indistinguishable.
Life becomes a series of demands with no catharsis or sense of completion.
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Burnout vs. Depression
Glennon describes her past experience with drug use and the subsequent depletion of serotonin, drawing a parallel to the feeling of burnout.
She highlights the difference between depression, where giving up feels inevitable, and burnout, where one continues functioning despite emptiness.
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Burnout
The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle
Emily Nagoski
Amelia Nagoski
This book, written by sisters Emily Nagoski, Ph.D., and Amelia Nagoski, DMA, delves into the specific challenges women encounter with burnout. It provides a comprehensive, science-based approach to reducing stress and enhancing well-being. The authors define burnout as a combination of emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, and a decreased sense of accomplishment, and they offer practical solutions such as completing the biological stress cycle, managing emotional triggers, and overcoming societal pressures. The book is divided into sections that explain the stress cycle, the impact of cultural norms on women's stress levels, and strategies for rest, human connection, and self-compassion. It includes helpful worksheets and exercises to empower women to combat burnout and achieve genuine wellness[1][3][5].
Come as you are
the surprising new science that will transform your sex life
Emily Nagoski
Blanca González Villegas
In 'Come as You Are', Emily Nagoski and Blanca González Villegas delve into the latest scientific research on human sexuality, offering insights and practical advice to improve sexual well-being. The book addresses various aspects of sex, including desire, arousal, and the complexities of sexual response, aiming to help readers understand and enhance their sexual experiences.
1. With everything going on in the world, and in our lives, is “Burnout” the reason we all feel like zombies?
2. Why stress is like trash: You have to get rid of it often or your life starts to stink.
3. Emily and Amelia Nagoski – the authors of Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle – answer our Pod Squad’s burning questions about how to bounce back from burnout.
About Emily:
EMILY NAGOSKI is the award-winning author of the New York Times bestselling Come As You Are and The Come As You Are Workbook. She earned an M.S. in counseling and a Ph.D. in health behavior, both from Indiana University, with clinical and research training at the Kinsey Institute. Now she combines sex education and stress education to teach women to live with confidence and joy inside their bodies. Emily’s new podcast, Come As You Are, is launching this Summer and her forthcoming book, Come Together, will be released in 2023. She lives in Massachusetts with two dogs, a cat, and a cartoonist.
AMELIA NAGOSKI, Amelia is the co-author with Emily, of the New York Times bestseller Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle. A Doctorate of Musical Arts, her job as she describes it is to run around waving her arms and making funny noises and generally doing whatever it takes to help singers get in touch with their internal experience. She lives in New England with her husband, one cat, and two rescue dogs.
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