Table Talk: Julian Baggini, on the 'philosophy of food'
Jan 14, 2025
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Julian Baggini, a philosopher and author known for his book "How the World Eats," shares his unique perspective on food. He reminisces about childhood birthdays and his unwavering love for shepherd's pie. The conversation dives into the philosophy of veganism, exploring the ethics of our food choices and sustainability. Baggini also tackles modern food system challenges, advocating for high animal welfare and critiquing national food strategies. His insights blend personal anecdotes with profound culinary philosophy.
Julian Baggini reflects on how childhood food experiences shaped his appreciation for diverse culinary traditions and communal dining.
He advocates for systemic change in food systems, emphasizing the importance of policy reform alongside individual consumer choices for sustainability.
Deep dives
Early Food Memories and Cultural Influences
Julian Buggini recalls that his fondest food memory from childhood is related to shepherd's pie, which he associated with warmth and comfort during his birthday celebrations. Growing up in East Kent in the 1970s, his family's meals were a mix of traditional English cuisine and Italian influences due to his father's immigrant background. While he experienced typical British food from that era, such as inexpensive and often less appealing meals, he also enjoyed Italian dishes like spaghetti bolognese, albeit prepared in a less authentic manner. Buggini highlights how these early experiences shaped his understanding and appreciation of diverse culinary traditions.
Food Experiences in School and University
Julian describes his school lunches as dreadful, often filled with unappetizing meals that left him eager to switch to packed lunches. He recalls the standardized packed lunch regulations during the 1980s, which typically included sandwiches, fruit, and a small treat. As he transitioned to university, he found himself living in a house with friends, where they collectively cooked and shared meals, fostering camaraderie and a sense of community around food. This period marked a shift towards healthier and shared dining habits, contrasting with his earlier dining experiences at school.
Philosophy and Food Ethics
Julian's journey into philosophy and food ethics emerged from his personal interest in food and its ethical implications. He began exploring this field by writing books that connected food practices to broader philosophical discussions, such as how the choices surrounding food influence health, culture, and ethics. His work with the Food Ethics Council deepened his understanding of the complexity within food systems, where he sought to uncover the common elements that define successful and sustainable practices. Through his writing, especially in his latest book, he aims to engage readers in a holistic understanding of food's role in society.
Contemporary Food Systems and Future Challenges
Julian emphasizes the pressing issues facing modern food systems, likening them to a high-functioning alcoholic that appears functional on the surface but hides deeper problems. He highlights challenges like soil degradation, food inequality, and the environmental impacts of food production, advocating for awareness and change. He supports the idea that while individual consumer choices matter, systemic change driven by policy reform is essential for sustainable solutions. Drawing on examples from countries with successful food strategies, he believes it’s possible to create a healthier and more ethical food environment through proper incentives and education.
Julian is a philosopher, journalist and author. He has served as the academic director of the Royal Institute of Philosophy and is a member of the Food Ethics Council. His new book, How the World Eats: A Global Food Philosophy, is out now.
On the podcast, Julian tells Liv about why he used to insist that shepherd’s pie was served at his birthday parties, the philosophical view of veganism and why it’s worth getting the expensive hazelnuts.
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