How to Be a Better Human How to rest when life is overwhelming (w/ Katherine May)
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Aug 25, 2025 
Katherine May, author of "Wintering" and "Enchantment," explores the importance of acknowledging life’s challenges as natural experiences. She discusses how humor can be a powerful coping mechanism during tough times and the necessity of having genuine conversations about pain rather than resorting to clichés. Katherine emphasizes the beauty that can be found amidst struggles, advocating for mindfulness and connection with others. Through her insights, listeners are encouraged to embrace vulnerability and navigate life's complexities more authentically.
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Wintering As A Natural Life Season
- Wintering describes involuntary, lonely, and painful life seasons like illness, bereavement, or failure.
- Katherine May frames these periods as natural seasons that demand acceptance rather than shame.
Choose How You Meet Hard Times
- You cannot always choose to avoid dark seasons, but you can choose how to relate to them.
- Radical acceptance lessens additional suffering caused by resisting inevitable change.
Trying To Keep Everyone From Drowning
- Chris describes supporting his wife through a period of severe illness and depression where he felt he was only preventing both from sinking.
- He used the metaphor of using 100% effort to avoid drowning without making progress.
