Stuck Not Broken

254. From Sound to Safety: Understanding the Safe & Sound Protocol with Dr. Porges and Karen Onderko

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Apr 22, 2025
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Karen Onderko
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Stephen Porges
Dr. Stephen Porges, a pioneering neuroscientist and the creator of the Polyvagal Theory, teams up with Karen Onderko, a co-developer of the Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP). They delve into how SSP uses filtered music to enhance feelings of safety, alleviating anxiety and depression, particularly in individuals with autism. The pair explore the scientific backing of SSP, its unique musical selections, and its role in promoting neuroplasticity. They also discuss SSP's potential in various therapeutic contexts, emphasizing the significance of co-regulation in its effectiveness.
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INSIGHT

Sound As A Direct Neural Cue

  • The Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP) uses filtered music focused on human voice frequencies to cue safety in the nervous system.
  • SSP targets auditory prosody to make the autonomic nervous system more receptive to cues of social engagement.
ADVICE

Follow The Five-Hour Filtration Plan

  • Do the five hours of SSP listening as designed because the filtration shifts across sessions to titrate cues of safety.
  • Start with distilled voice-range frequencies and progress as tolerance and receptivity increase.
INSIGHT

Evidence Beyond Anecdote

  • SSP has laboratory and controlled clinical evidence showing changes in autonomic tone and symptom reductions.
  • Research includes randomized and clinic-controlled studies plus expanding community research.
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