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Episode 6 - Paul Johnson Part 1

Oct 6, 2025
Paul Johnson, a renowned educator and investor, shares his insights on the value of growth and its implications for modern investing. He explores the tension between value and growth, drawing from his journey as a tech analyst and his work on 'The Gorilla Game.' Johnson discusses how competitive advantage and adoption dynamics shape market expectations. He emphasizes the importance of understanding earnings power versus market-implied growth and critiques traditional valuation methods. The conversation challenges listeners to rethink how they approach growth in today's evolving market.
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ANECDOTE

Meeting That Sparked A Long Collaboration

  • Paul Johnson met Jeff Moore after reading Crossing the Chasm and bought 25 copies to share with colleagues.
  • That airplane meeting led to collaborating on The Gorilla Game and shaped Johnson's thinking about growth and diffusion.
INSIGHT

When Growth Outpaces The Discount Rate

  • Hyper growth happens when a company's growth rate exceeds its discount rate, making future cash flows more valuable each year.
  • Pairing growth above the discount rate with return on capital above growth creates outsized value and cash generation.
ADVICE

Assess Funding And Returns During Hypergrowth

  • Evaluate both growth duration and ability to fund growth when valuing fast-growing companies.
  • Focus on return on capital relative to growth to judge whether high growth creates sustainable value.
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