The Tim Ferriss Show

#494: Michael Phelps and Grant Hackett — Two Legends on Competing, Overcoming Adversity, Must-Read Books, and Much More

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Jan 21, 2021
Michael Phelps, a swimming icon with 28 Olympic medals, and Grant Hackett, an Australian legend with 58 medals, dive deep into the realms of competition and mental health. They discuss their personal journeys, emphasizing resilience and camaraderie amidst adversity. From innovative sleep strategies to the power of must-read books, they share valuable insights on recovery techniques and daily commitment in sports training. Their candid reflections on navigating mental health challenges aim to destigmatize these issues and inspire others to embrace vulnerability.
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ANECDOTE

2004 Olympics 1500m Freestyle

  • Grant Hackett got pneumonia from overtraining and had a partially collapsed lung during the 2004 Olympics 1500m freestyle.
  • Despite this, he pushed through intense pain, even surpassing his world record pace in the final 100 meters, demonstrating the power of competition.
ANECDOTE

2016 200m Butterfly

  • Michael Phelps found the 2016 200m butterfly particularly challenging, feeling he would have lost if it were longer.
  • He attributes pain-free races to preparation, highlighting its importance in competition.
INSIGHT

Training and Data

  • Phelps and Hackett possessed an innate feel for the water and were driven by a constant desire to improve.
  • Their shared competitive spirit and meticulous tracking of performance data fueled their exceptional training.
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