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The Martyr Made Podcast
#6 - Fear & Loathing in the New Jerusalem - Never Again
Dec 20, 2016
05:36:25
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- The ideological clash between political Zionists and revisionists in the late 1930s highlighted differing visions for the Jewish homeland and the determination to shape the future state.
- The restrictive immigration policy of political Zionists prioritized young, healthy, motivated workers for immigration, while denying entry to those who didn't align with their vision, causing disappointment and suicide among young Betar members.
- The brutal massacre of more than 30,000 Jews in Kiev during World War II exposed the deception, brutality, and disregard for human life, emphasizing the need to remember and learn from history to prevent such acts from happening again.
- Operation Agatha, launched by the British, aimed to crack down on Zionist offices and settlements in Palestine, leading to the arrest of thousands of Zionist members and the seizure of incriminating documents.
- The violent tactics employed by Zionist militias, including attacks on Arab villages, massacres, looting, and rape, highlight the dark side of the Zionist movement and its divergence from the early humanist principles.
- The incident involving the ship Altalena, chartered by the Irgun and carrying weapons, led to a firefight between the Irgun and the IDF, impacting both Israelis and the international community.
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The Clash of Political Zionism and Revisionism
In the late 1930s, tensions between the political Zionists and the revisionists escalated. David Ben Gurion, representing the political Zionists, aimed to control the future Jewish state and selectively allowed immigration permits based on political loyalty. This betrayal deeply angered the revisionists, who had a different vision for the Jewish homeland. The restrictive immigration policy caused disappointment and even suicide among young Betar members. Exacerbating the divide, Begin openly clashed with Jabotinsky, denouncing political Zionism and advocating for independence from great powers. The dispute highlighted the differing philosophies and the determination to shape the future Jewish state.
Differential Treatment of Jewish Refugees
As the rise of Nazism in Germany intensified, Jewish refugees sought escape, but emigration options were limited. The Jewish Agency, under David Ben Gurion's leadership, selected immigrants based on political loyalty and the need to create a Jewish majority. The agency prioritized young, healthy, and motivated workers, while restricting the entrance of old people, women, and children. Additionally, mentally handicapped children were banned, and those who became incurably ill were sent back to Europe. The political Zionists were solely focused on building the state, and individuals who did not align with their vision were denied entry.
The Ideological Clash between Jabotinsky and Begin
The ideological clash between Jabotinsky and Begin became evident at the third international Betar conference in 1938. While Jabotinsky gave the opening remarks, Begin openly challenged the political Zionism, declaring that it had failed and the time for dependency on great powers had passed. This clash between the two leaders heightened the tension among the revisionists and the Labor Zionists. Begin's uncompromising stance and his growing popularity among young Betar members further intensified the hostility between the two factions.
Mass murder of Jewish community in Kiev during World War II
In September 1941, the German forces occupying Kiev decided to murder all of the Jews remaining in the city as a response to a bombing attack. The Jews were ordered to appear on a street corner, promised resettlement, and instructed to bring their documents, money, and valuables. More than 30,000 Jews gathered, believing they were being relocated. They were then escorted by armed Germans and dogs to a checkpoint, where non-Jews were turned away. The Jews were forced to strip naked, surrender their possessions, and driven in groups to the edge of a ravine. There they were shot and their bodies piled atop one another. The mass murder lasted for 36 hours, with each group lying down on the corpses already beneath them. Approximately 33,761 Jews were killed in this brutal act.
Personal account of Dina Pronicheva's survival
Dina Pronicheva, who survived the massacre, witnessed the murder of her parents, sister, and fellow Jews in the ravine. She attempted to escape when her mother alerted her that they were being murdered, but was told to wait until the work was complete. Many victims were beaten before being shot and forced to lie down on the bodies of those already killed. The killing continued for 36 hours, and each person had different thoughts and concerns until their final moments. Some died thinking of others, like a mother who asked to be killed with her daughter to spare her from potential rape. Another mother breastfed her baby before both were thrown into the ravine. Pronicheva survived by throwing herself into the ravine and pretending to be dead.
Survivor's account of the Holocaust in Ukraine
This personal account sheds light on the harrowing experiences of Jews during the Holocaust in Ukraine. It illustrates the deception, brutality, and disregard for human life as thousands of innocent Jews were rounded up, forced to strip, and then systematically shot and thrown into a mass grave. The horrific massacre in Kiev is a stark reminder of the atrocities committed during World War II, highlighting the need to remember and learn from history to prevent such acts from happening again.
Operation Agatha and the Crackdown on Zionist Groups
Operation Agatha was launched by the British in an attempt to crack down on Zionist offices, hideouts, and settlements in Palestine. The operation led to the arrest of thousands of Zionist members and the seizure of documents that implicated the Zionist leadership in acts of terrorism. British cryptographers had cracked the code used by the Jewish Agency, giving them valuable intelligence. However, many top leaders, including Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir, managed to evade capture. The British hoped to use the evidence obtained to force a negotiated settlement with more moderate Zionist leaders.
Joint Offensive Actions against the British
In October 1945, the Haganah, Irgun, and Stern Gang signed an agreement to coordinate offensive operations against the British. These actions involved attacks on critical infrastructure and control points. The groups targeted railroad infrastructure, bridges, and British military installations. Their activities escalated, leading to large-scale bombings, including the bombing of the King David Hotel. Despite the ongoing violence, the British were limited in their response due to international scrutiny and the influence of the Zionist movement.
Tensions between Zionists and the British
The British faced significant challenges from the Zionist movement as tensions escalated. The Zionists mobilized their powerful network of allies, particularly in the United States, to put pressure on the British government. They portrayed the British as unfit to manage the situation in Palestine and pushed for increased Jewish immigration to the region. While the British sought a negotiated settlement, the Zionist leadership continued its campaign of direct action against the British, leading to a stalemate and increased violence.
The Partition Vote and its Consequences
Despite objections from Arab delegates, the United Nations General Assembly voted in favor of the partition of Palestine, granting the Zionists their long-sought Jewish homeland. However, the vote was marred by allegations of bribery and political pressure from the Zionist camp. The Arab delegates, lacking effective leadership, failed to prevent the partition. This decision set the stage for the violent conflict and displacement that followed.
Zionist Campaign of Terror
With the partition plan approved, the Zionists began a targeted campaign of terror to intimidate and drive out Arab civilians from the Jewish-controlled areas. Bombings and street clashes resulted in the deaths of both Arabs and Jews. The Zionist strategy, backed by better organization and access to weapons, aimed to create a strategic advantage over the disorganized Palestinians, who lacked significant means of defense. The British, still responsible for maintaining peace, were unwilling to intervene effectively and focused on completing their withdrawal from Palestine.
The Transformation of Zionist Ideals
The founding ideals of Zionism, which emphasized coexistence with the Arab population and the rejection of expulsion, had transformed over time. Zionist leaders, such as Chaim Weizmann, became more politically pragmatic, often contradicting their original promises and moderate positions. The aim of a Jewish state became prioritized, leading to a shift away from the humanist principles upon which early Zionism was based. This transformation would have far-reaching consequences for the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
The Tragic Resort to Terrorism and Compounding with Evil
The podcast episode highlights the dark side of the Zionist movement, including the use of terrorism and a willingness to compromise with evil. The speaker discusses the tragic implications of these actions and how they diverged from the values of humanist Zionism and Judaism. Key figures such as Chaim Weizmann and David Ben-Gurion are mentioned, shedding light on the ideological struggles within the movement. Additionally, the episode explores the consequences of this path, both in terms of internal division within the Zionist movement and the impact on the Palestinian Arab population.
The Violent Tactics and Massacres in Palestine
The podcast delves into the violent tactics employed by the Zionist militias, including attacks on Arab villages, massacres, looting, and rape. Specific examples like the Deir Yassin massacre are highlighted, with chilling first-hand accounts of the atrocities committed. The episode also discusses the propaganda and exaggeration used to intimidate Arab populations and fuel the mass exodus of refugees. Furthermore, it explores the disparity in commitment and organization between the Zionist forces and the Arab states, shedding light on the unbalanced nature of the conflict.
The Altalena Incident and Manachem Begin's Demands
During the ceasefire, the ship Altalena, chartered by the Irgun, arrived in Palestine carrying weapons and fighters. Menachem Begin demanded that some of those weapons be given to his men since the unification of the Irgun and the new IDF was still being worked out. However, David Ben-Gurion saw this as a threat to his power and refused, leading to a firefight between the Irgun and the IDF. The Altalena was eventually abandoned and the incident deeply impacted both Israelis and the international community.
The Ethnic Cleansing of Arab Population and Count Bernadot's Intervention
During the war between Israel and Arab states, Israeli forces conducted operations to drive out Arab populations from cities like Lydda and Ramle. Tens of thousands of Arab civilians were forced to leave their homes and became refugees. Count Bernadot, a humanitarian involved in rescuing prisoners from concentration camps, called for the displaced civilians to be allowed to return and for Jerusalem to be placed under international protection. However, Israel continued to expand into occupied territories, leading to ongoing conflict and a precarious situation for both Israelis and Palestinians.
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A Man Who Surrendered Himself and His Personal Feelings Almost Entirely to His Historical Mission
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The Polish Army Can Help Polish Revisionists Lead Polands Jews Off to Their Country
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The Holocoust - The Power That It Occupies Over Your Culture Self Understanding
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The Zinis in Palestine Took Their Game to the Next Level, Putting Their Differences Aside
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The British Were Certain That the Information Would Eventually Get Back to the Zionists if They Shared With the Americans.
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Manaham Bagan, the Leader of the Hagana, Claimed Full Responsibility for the Attack on British Headquarters.
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The Arabs of Palestin Are Not Responsible in a Way for the Persecuted Jews in Europe
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Modern Zionism began in the late 19th century with idealistic calls for spiritual renewal; by 1939, it had transformed into a desperate play for bare survival. Young revolutionaries do combat with Zionist elder statesmen for the soul of the movement. Hitler’s German Reich and Stalin’s Soviet Union do battle for Europe while everything between them is ground into the mud. Victims become victimizers, and the wider world gets an introduction to the dispute that has been confounding the British Empire for 20 years. Our episode begins with desperate Jews in Nazi Europe, it ends with the realization of the Zionist dream, for the first time in 2,000 years, a sovereign state of Israel.
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