Way of Champions Podcast

#466 Brad Stulberg, Author of The Way of Excellence, on Redefining Excellence, the Mindset of High Performance, Building Effective Habits, and Finding Meaning in it All

Jan 28, 2026
Brad Stulberg, researcher, writer, and coach on sustainable excellence, shares ideas from his book about redefining excellence as meaningful, value-aligned growth. He contrasts performative “pseudo” excellence with heartfelt striving. Short conversations cover flow versus long-term excellence, feeling as the start of performance, curiosity as an antidote to fear, life periodization, and digital sabbath practices.
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INSIGHT

Excellence Defined As Meaningful Engagement

  • Excellence is involved engagement in something worthwhile that aligns with your values and goals.
  • That pursuit yields mastery (skill) and mattering (feeling important).
INSIGHT

Flow Isn’t The Same As Excellence

  • Flow is an acute, values-neutral state while excellence is a longitudinal, values-aligned process.
  • You can experience 'shitty flow' that feels immersive but doesn't align with your values or long-term flourishing.
ANECDOTE

Feeling Like Michael Jordan Worked

  • Jerry Lynch guided Chris Carwell to 'feel' playing like Michael Jordan and the player immediately improved and became a starter.
  • The intervention freed Carwell to be and perform as he envisioned.
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