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Mentioned in 15 episodes
Against the Grain
A Deep History of the Earliest States
Book • 2017
In 'Against the Grain', James C. Scott argues that the early agrarian states were not the result of a voluntary transition from hunter-gatherer lifestyles, but rather were formed through coercion and violence.
He challenges the conventional narrative that agriculture led to settled communities, civilization, and improved living standards.
Instead, Scott posits that these early states were often hierarchical, plagued by malnutrition and disease, and reliant on slavery.
The book explores the domestication of fire, plants, and animals, and how these processes led to the control of populations and the emergence of states.
It also discusses the tensions between states and non-state peoples, highlighting the adaptability and resilience of nomadic and hunter-gatherer communities.
He challenges the conventional narrative that agriculture led to settled communities, civilization, and improved living standards.
Instead, Scott posits that these early states were often hierarchical, plagued by malnutrition and disease, and reliant on slavery.
The book explores the domestication of fire, plants, and animals, and how these processes led to the control of populations and the emergence of states.
It also discusses the tensions between states and non-state peoples, highlighting the adaptability and resilience of nomadic and hunter-gatherer communities.
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Mentioned in 15 episodes
Mentioned by
Dwarkesh Patel when discussing the impact of early agriculturalists and their diseases on the displacement of hunter-gatherers.


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Dwarkesh Patel , referencing the author's insights on the history of agriculture and people's choices to live as foragers.


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Scott Alexander as a prequel to James Scott's "Seeing Like a State", exploring the origins of civilization and the role of wheat.


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Mentioned by
Daniele Bolelli when discussing a scholar who challenges the assumption that sedentary life is superior to nomadic life.


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