In this lively debate, philosopher John Gray, known for his book "Feline Philosophy," faces off against novelist Will Self. They dive into the deep-seated rivalry between cat and dog lovers, exploring the emotional implications of pet ownership and how these animals reflect human personalities. The discussion also touches on the ethical boundaries of domestication and the symbolic roles pets play in society. As the debate heats up, they invite listeners to consider their own pet preferences and the unique bonds formed with these beloved animals.
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McGlorian the Hunter
Will Self's dog, a Jack Russell named McGlorian, is bred for ratting and fox hunting.
Self argues that dogs' utility in hunting, even in post-apocalyptic scenarios, is not his main point.
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Domestication and Intelligence
Domesticated animals, including humans, are less intelligent and more docile than their wild counterparts.
This domestication is a collective event impacting both humans and animals.
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Kissing Pets
John Gray avoids kissing his cats, preferring nose rubbing as a sign of affection.
Will Self admits to kissing his dog McGlorian, likening it to familial affection.
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In 'Against the Grain', James C. Scott argues that the early agrarian states were not the result of a voluntary transition from hunter-gatherer lifestyles, but rather were formed through coercion and violence. He challenges the conventional narrative that agriculture led to settled communities, civilization, and improved living standards. Instead, Scott posits that these early states were often hierarchical, plagued by malnutrition and disease, and reliant on slavery. The book explores the domestication of fire, plants, and animals, and how these processes led to the control of populations and the emergence of states. It also discusses the tensions between states and non-state peoples, highlighting the adaptability and resilience of nomadic and hunter-gatherer communities.
This is the second part of a two-part episode. It’s the issue that’s more polarising than politics. The world is full of animal lovers but we can’t agree on which pet is more worthy of our love – the loyal, obedient dog, or the inscrutable, capricious cat. In this episode philosopher John Gray goes up against writer Will Self to debate the age old question of which animal is superior. The debate was chaired by writer, academic and broadcaster Shahidha Bari.
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