In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey explore the world of Type 5s, and how they can move beyond their core type by incorporating tools from Type 8 and Type 7. Cofounder of The Bible Project, Jon Collins, joins the show and shares how he experiences over-attachment to the mind and how he uses the tools of Type 5 in his work with The Bible Project. Everyone plays "What’s Your Number?", where Jesse and Lindsey try to guess what actually goes on in Jon's mind palace. Connect with JonLEAVE A REVIEW FOR "HOW WE RELATE" ON...AmazonGoodReadsBarnes & NobleTarget

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey talk about how Type 4s can move beyond their core type patterns by incorporating tools from Type 1 and Type 2. Lindsey interviews Jesse as the resident Type 4 and he talks about how he uses the tools from Types 1 and 4 in podcast production. Also, Jesse tells Lindsey what the most non-Type 4 thing he has ever done.LEAVE A REVIEW FOR "HOW WE RELATE" ON...AmazonGoodReadsBarnes & NobleTarget

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey talk about how Type 3s can move beyond their core type patterns by incorporating tools from Type 9 and Type 6. Barna Group CEO, David Kinnaman, joins the show and shares the ways he uses tools from other types in his life. Everyone plays What’s Your Number, where Jesse and Lindsey try to guess what David loves and what he despises! LEAVE A REVIEW FOR "HOW WE RELATE" ON...AmazonGoodReadsBarnes & NobleTarget

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey talk about how Type 2s can move beyond their core type patterns by incorporating tools from Type 8 and Type 4. Rebecca McLaughlin, joins the show and shares how she came to realize she was a Type 2 and the ways she uses tools from other types in her life. Everyone plays Type Detective, where each person will see how well they can discover truth from lies.Connect with RebeccaLEAVE A REVIEW FOR "HOW WE RELATE" ON...AmazonGoodReadsBarnes & NobleTarget

David Thomas, Founder of Raising Boys and Girls and Daystar Counseling, joins the show to discuss how Type 1 individuals can incorporate tools from other types, such as Type 4 and Type 7, to move beyond their core type patterns. The podcast covers topics like dealing with the inner critic, reflecting on student experiences, exploring relationship behaviors, navigating sadness and embracing uncertainty, and the power of grace in Enneagram teachings.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey begin a new series on Moving Beyond Your Core Type. Marilyn Vancil joins the show to discuss her new book, Beyond the Enneagram. Together they discuss the need for inner transformation and soul restoration on the Enneagram journey and how to move from self-orientation to God-centered living.LEAVE A REVIEW FOR "HOW WE RELATE" ON...AmazonGoodReadsBarnes & NobleTarget

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey wrap up the series on The Enneagram and Desire with CrossPoint Director, Clif Roth. Jesse and Lindsey hear what Clif is currently thinking about desire: how it has grown and how it is impacting relationships.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey talk through the desire to have peace and how this is expressed in the qualities of Enneagram Type 9. Singer-songwriter and professional high-fiver Andy Gullahorn joins the show and shares how the desire to be at peace has shaped his life as well as his journey to tell the difference between peace and comfort. Everyone plays Trial by Trolley, where Andy will save the world from either hungry Kraken or flying sharks.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey talk through the desire to protect yourself and how this is expressed in the qualities of Enneagram Type 8. Adam Young of The Place We Find Ourselves podcast joins the show and shares how the desire to be protective has shaped his life as well as his journey to tell the difference between protection and control. Everyone plays Your Worst Nightmare, where Lindsey will try to predict Adam’s fears.

Some claim the enneagram comes from ancient Christians while others claim it’s from demons. Is the enneagram a gift from God or a Trojan horse of self-deception? Three stories of people who discover shocking truths about the enneagram that lead them to unexpected places. Connect with Michelle: michellenebel.com Connect with Tyler: tylerzach.com/history Connect with Lindsey: relatebetter.com