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In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey explore the world of Type 5s, and how they can move beyond their core type by incorporating tools from Type 8 and Type 7. Cofounder of The Bible Project, Jon Collins, joins the show and shares how he experiences over-attachment to the mind and how he uses the tools of Type 5 in his work with The Bible Project. Everyone plays "What’s Your Number?", where Jesse and Lindsey try to guess what actually goes on in Jon's mind palace.
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