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The #1 podcast for founders, operators, and investors in B2B tech. Tune in every week to hear Sam Jacobs, AJ Bruno and Asad Zaman discuss and debate the trends, news, and developments impacting the B2B tech world. Enjoy the hot takes, strong opinions, and dry humor.
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Apr 10, 2025 • 24min
SPOTLIGHT: Optimizing Growth in B2B Tech with Mike Dzik
In this discussion, Mike Dzik, Operating Partner at Radian Capital, shares his expertise in B2B software investments. He dives into why SaaS companies often stumble, emphasizing that rapid growth can be perilous. Mike offers insights on recognizing growth stall points, the necessity for product adaptability, and the value of customer discovery. He also discusses effective pricing strategies and how continuous innovation is crucial for success. Plus, he shares some intriguing book recommendations for those seeking inspiration.

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Apr 6, 2025 • 1h 8min
E103: AI Agents and the Future of Enterprise Tech with Box CTO Ben Kus
Ben Kus, CTO at Box and a visionary in enterprise technology, discusses the rapid rise of AI in businesses. He emphasizes how AI adoption is outpacing previous tech shifts and explores the integration of AI agents that enhance collaboration. The conversation touches on balancing innovation with trust in data security, navigating legacy systems, and the pivotal role of open platforms. Kus also shares insights on the future of software engineering and offers book recommendations that inspire forward-thinking.

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Apr 3, 2025 • 22min
SPOTLIGHT: How to Master Multi-Threading in Complex Sales
Rachit Kataria and William Wang, co-founders of Centralize, discuss strategies for mastering multi-threading in complex sales. They reveal why winning deals hinges on individual connections rather than just account levels. The duo dives into common challenges sales teams face and advocates for visualizing relationship networks to identify stakeholder gaps. Uncovering ways to leverage connections to engage decision-makers, they emphasize creating meaningful moments in sales and adapting strategies to meet evolving customer needs in the AI-driven landscape.

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Mar 30, 2025 • 1h 10min
E102: Why Sales Hiring Fails and How to Fix It
Ben Tagoe, CEO of Objective Management Group, brings his expertise in sales talent assessments to the discussion. He reveals why so many sales hires fail, emphasizing the importance of fundamental selling skills and the right mindset. Ben outlines how science can refine the hiring process, reducing costly mistakes. The conversation also tackles high turnover rates and the need for tailored assessments based on unique organizational contexts. He stresses the emotional and financial impacts of hiring challenges on companies, particularly in today’s economic landscape.

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Mar 27, 2025 • 26min
SPOTLIGHT: Instilling Operational Rigor in a Growing Business with Anna Talerico, CEO of CFI
In this discussion, Anna Talerico, CEO of the Corporate Finance Institute, shares her journey from founder to leading a venture-backed enterprise. She delves into the importance of operational rigor, especially after acquisitions. Anna emphasizes the value of structured sprints for maintaining alignment and accountability within teams. She creatively compares effective operational systems to music, highlighting the necessity of leadership in fostering focus. Additionally, she touches on the parallels between accountability in business and nutrition, offering insights for both fields.

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Mar 26, 2025 • 22min
SPOTLIGHT: How CEO Kevin Smith Turned Snipd’s Monetization Struggles Into a Sustainable Business
In this engaging conversation, Kevin Smith, CEO and co-founder of Snipd, an innovative AI-powered podcast app, opens up about his company's battle to achieve sustainable monetization. He recounts the emotional rollercoaster of shifting from free to premium services amidst financial turmoil. Kevin discusses the intense user backlash they faced and the heartwarming moment that rekindled their commitment. Listeners will be captivated as he shares insights on leveraging user feedback and the transformative power of AI in enhancing the podcast experience.

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Mar 25, 2025 • 1h 8min
E101: Why Rippling and Deel Are a Warning to Every Tech Company
Dive into the wild rivalry between HR tech giants Rippling and Deel, where corporate espionage allegations and legal drama take center stage. Discover the bizarre tactics employed in this competitive landscape, like honeypots and toilet phones. The discussion also sheds light on ethical dilemmas in tech, the impact of aggressive hiring practices, and the transformation of employees into millionaires through significant acquisitions. Amidst all the chaos, the importance of integrity and community insights comes through loud and clear.

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Mar 20, 2025 • 1h 10min
E100: Driving Business Growth When Uncertainty is the Only Constant
Join a thought-provoking discussion as the hosts reflect on their growth and evolving leadership perspectives. They emphasize the importance of mental resilience and community support amidst uncertain business landscapes. Hear humorous anecdotes about aging and maintaining optimism, along with the shifts in communication strategies required during volatile times. Personal stories offer insights into the emotional aspects of navigating challenges, while a celebration of reaching a significant podcast milestone showcases their gratitude and future aspirations.

Mar 13, 2025 • 21min
SPOTLIGHT: Shifting ICPs Without Breaking CS with Demetra Anagnostopoulos of SurePeople
Demetra Anagnostopoulos, CCO at SurePeople, shares her expertise in shifting Ideal Customer Profiles from large enterprises to startups. She tackles the challenges of aligning customer success processes and redefining customer journeys. Demetra emphasizes the importance of cross-team collaboration to prevent silos and improve outcomes. She also highlights leveraging data-driven strategies to meet diverse customer expectations. Her insights provide a roadmap for navigating innovation in customer success successfully.

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Mar 9, 2025 • 1h 21min
E99: How GTM Revenue Leaders Are Operationalizing AI for Growth with Kyle Norton of Owner.com
Kyle Norton, revenue leader and host of The Revenue Leadership Podcast, joins the conversation to discuss the real impact of AI on go-to-market strategies. He examines how AI can enhance productivity, the balance between centralized tools and individual use, and its potential for leveling the playing field in sales. Norton also dives into the evolution of revenue models, particularly the shift to usage-based pricing, and the crucial role of effective communication in leadership. His insights on integrating AI and fostering company culture add depth to the discussion.