In this discussion, Keith Casey, also known as Danger, shares insights from his impressive background in DevRel, having worked at companies like Twilio and Okta. He explores the evolution of Developer Relations, emphasizing a shift from technical focus to strategic marketing. Keith delves into the financial implications of DevRel, the necessity for accountability, and the importance of aligning with organizational goals. He also examines the shift from traditional SDKs to innovative tools through generative AI, highlighting solutions for enhancing developer productivity.

Louis Knight-Webb is the CEO and co-founder of Bloop.Bloop helps with modernizing legacy software, particularly focusing on COBOL and mainframes. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Takeaways:- Mainframes and COBOL are still foundational in many industries.- Bloop started with a focus on code search but evolved to address legacy code modernization.- The transition from COBOL to Java is a significant challenge for many enterprises.- Innovative approaches are needed to effectively translate legacy code.- Ensuring code quality during migration is crucial to avoid operational disruptions.- AI can enhance the code translation process but has limitations with legacy languages.Links:- Louis Knight-Webb - Bloop  Chapters:00:00 The Legacy of Mainframes and COBOL03:05 The Evolution of Bloop and Code Search05:58 Challenges in Modernizing Legacy Code08:48 Navigating the Enterprise Code Landscape12:11 The Transition from COBOL to Java15:05 Innovative Approaches to Code Translation18:02 Ensuring Code Quality and Functionality20:56 The Future of Development and AI Integration23:52 Building Relationships in the Enterprise Space26:45 The Long-Term Vision for Legacy Code Modernization

Guy Podjarny is the founder of Tessl - a startup that is rethinking how we build software.Guy previously founded Snyk - a dependency scanning tool worth billions of dollars. Before Snyk, Guy founded Blaze, which he sold to Akamai.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. In this conversation, we talk about the future of programming and the future of DevTools. The future of programming will focus on writing specifications.Trust in AI toolsSnyk is an example of how tools can integrate into existing workflows.Code can become disposable, allowing for flexibility in development.Specifications will serve as repositories of truth in software development.Developers will need to adapt their skills to leverage AI tools effectively.Community collaboration is essential for the evolution of AI development tools.AI simplifies and democratizes the process of software creationThanks to Anna Debenham for making this happen. 

Tessa Kriesel, founder of builtfor.dev, is a champion for DevTools founders looking to refine their go-to-market strategies. She discusses the transformation from lengthy development processes to a focused one-day sprint, emphasizing the importance of setting achievable outcomes. Tessa highlights the necessity of customer engagement and feedback in product development while addressing the challenges faced by technical founders in marketing. She shares effective strategies for aligning products with user needs and fostering a robust developer experience.

We dig into the the build vs. buy dilemma for APIs, and the role of OpenAPI in effective documentation. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.We explore how AI is transforming the landscape of APIs and developer tools, and discuss the future of coding.The choice between building and buying SDKs depends on company maturity.OpenAPI is crucial for generating quality API documentation.AI is revolutionizing how APIs are created and consumed.Maintaining SDK libraries can be a significant challenge.Developer tools must evolve to keep pace with API design changes.Trust in AI-generated code is growing among developers.The future of coding will likely involve more AI integration.Links:APIMaticSid Maestre

Jake Cooper, founder of Railway, shares insights on building a remote team with a flat structure, emphasizing communication and autonomy. He humorously touches on his sales team's ‘Minority Report’ tactics and explains the importance of leverage in business. Jake also discusses the complexities of creating data centers, including logistical challenges, and how startups can innovate to compete. He highlights the transformative role of AI in programming, advocating for human oversight to ensure reliability.

In this conversation, Daksh Gupta, the CEO of Greptile - an AI code understanding API - shares:Why it’s important to do unique types of marketing, like making an energy drinkWhy most people misunderstand salesHow companies are buying AI tools and why it will probably change soonThis episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.Links:Greptile greptile.com Mintlify https://mintlify.com/Greptile energy drink https://x.com/dakshgup/status/1769813883194130856 Steve Ballmer boxes https://x.com/dakshgup/status/1854224733086359582 PostHog competition https://x.com/james406/status/1854557581030670478  

Ankur Goyal is the founder of ​Braintrust​, a year old LLM eval platform that is already used by Figma, Vercel and Stripe and just raised $36m from a16z. It's a rocketship.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Key Success Factors- Started with a targeted list of ~50 companies already working with AI- Focused on early adopters and innovators in the space- Strategy: If they could make the frontrunners happy, others would followLinks:- Braintrust - Ankur Goyal - Alana Goyal - Basecase  - Elad Gil  - Martin Casado Chapters:* 00:00  Introduction to BrainTrust and Its Success* 02:52  The Importance of User Research in Product Development* 06:11  Building Relationships with Key Customers* 09:05  The Role of Feedback in Product Improvement* 11:54  The Impact of Mentorship on Entrepreneurial Success* 15:11  Identifying Market Opportunities in AI Development* 18:00  Effective User Interviews and Problem Validation* 20:59  The Evolution of BrainTrust's Product Features* 23:55  Advice for Aspiring DevTool Founders* 26:48  Exciting Developments in the DevTool Space

​Samuel Colvin​ - the creator of ​Pydantic​ - the most popular data validation library for Python. Used by literally everyone (Anthropic, OpenAI, Meta, NVIDIA, even the NSA). He shares the story behind his startup ​Logfire​ which just raised $12.5m from Sequoia.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Key takeaways:- You can just build a different product to your open source project and leverage your brand- Quality of product matters a LOT (if you can build a popular open source project, can probably build a quality paid product)- Really helps to be part of a movement. Hard to predict but Pydantic benefited from two (types and LLMs)- GitHub stars are a vanity metric compared to download numbersLinks:- Pydantic - Logfire - Samuel Colvin Chapters00:00 The Genesis of Pydantic02:46 The Evolution of Software Development06:02 Building a Successful Open Source Library08:52 The Impact of Community and Adoption11:51 Metrics of Success in Open Source15:08 Transitioning from Pydantic to LogFire17:59 The Vision Behind LogFire20:50 The Connection Between Pydantic and LogFire24:05 Navigating the Challenges of Building a Startup26:56 The Future of Observability and DatabasesP.s. thanks to my friend Abeed for making the episode happen!

There are more and more open source DevTools startups. I’ve interviewed dozens. But I am still confused about open source licenses. So I decided to ask questions to two people who actually understand them: my friends Eric and Matt - founders of open source background jobs tool Trigger.dev.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.What we discuss:Two Key Questions for License SelectionWhat are the benefits of permissive licenses?What are the main licenses?Why shouldn’t you write your own (open source) license?What is Copyleft?Post Open Source" Movement(00:50) - Open Source Licensing (18:18) - Protective Licensing (23:12) - Copy Left Concept (43:30) - Wordpress Trigger:Eric Allam - https://x.com/maverickdotdev Matt Aitken - https://x.com/mattaitkenTrigger.dev https://trigger.dev/JSON Hero https://jsonhero.io/ LicensesMIT License https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License - Matt’s “most permissive license”Apache-2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_License - “Like MIT but with trademarks”FSL / Fair Source License https://fair.io/ - created by SentryHeather Meeker - Open Source Licencing expert https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathermeeker/ A practical guide to Open Source Licencing https://www.amazon.co.uk/Open-Source-Business-Practical-Licensing/dp/1544737645 ReferencesSentry https://sentry.io/welcome/ Redis https://redis.io/ Valkey https://valkey.io/ Clickhouse https://clickhouse.com/ Background to Continue.dev and PearAI https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/30/y-combinator-is-being-criticized-after-it-backed-an-ai-startup-that-admits-it-basically-cloned-another-ai-startup/