Mitchell Hashimoto - famously the founder of HashiCorp (creators of Terraform, Vault etc.) joins the show to discuss his latest open-source project, Ghostty, a modern terminal emulator. We discuss:Designing dev tools with a focus on human experience.Taking on large technical projects and breaking them down into achievable steps.Open source sustainability and the role of financial support.The impossible goal of building a perfect human experience with software.Passion and hiring—why obsession with a topic often leads to the best hires.Using AI as a developer and why Mitchell considers AI tooling essential.The motivation behind Ghostty and the idea of "technical philanthropy."The vision for libghostty as a reusable terminal core for other applications.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. https://workos.com/Links:Ghostty (https://ghostty.org/)Mitchell Hashimoto on Twitter (https://twitter.com/mitchellh)Mitchell’s blog (https://mitchellh.com/)

Guillermo Rauch is the founder of Vercel. Vercel is a cloud infra platform so easy to use that it’s almost become a category: “I’m building the Vercel of X”. Vercel also recently launched v0 which is potentially the next evolution of web development - type what you want and it builds it and deploys it for you. He’s also the creator Next.js, socket.io and a ton of other open source tools and startups. Plus he’s a prolific investor in DevTools. I’ve missed a ton of his achievements here but essentially, he’s the king of DevTools and you probably know him already.What we talk about- Why Guillermo bets on people who ship- What AI has in common with Prettier- v0 puts design first- Saying ‘not yet’ is a boss move- Why Guillermo thinks devs won’t lose their jobs- How you can learn product building- Why you should be careful when hiring from rocketships - not everyone was in the control room- The value of people having a full stack skill set. And why communication is more important than ever- Why it’s so important to explain what you do in simple terms- Tools Guillermo is excited about right nowLinks:- Guillermo Rauch - Vercel - v0 - NextJS- Socket.IO - Browserbase - LiveKit- LanguineThis episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. https://workos.com/

Jacob Eiting, CEO of RevenueCat, joins us to discuss mobile developers and how they're different, RevenueCat's recent acquisition of Dipsea - and how it helps them dogfood.We also go hard on content - something RevenueCat is great at.We also talk about charisma in founders (but don't worry neither of us said rizz)This was especially fun because I actually used RevenueCat way before I started this show. We discuss:How RevenueCat simplifies in-app subscriptions and why mobile monetization is more complex than it appears.Making developers feel like heroes instead of struggling with tedious implementation.RevenueCat’s acquisition of Dipsea—a customer with over 100,000 subscribers—and how it benefits both companies.The advantages of operating an app at scale to better test and iterate on new RevenueCat features.How in-app subscription businesses differ from traditional SaaS in terms of pricing, churn, and optimization.The importance of content marketing and transparency in building trust with developers.The role of personality and authenticity in developer-first marketing.The long-term vision for RevenueCat and how they plan to expand beyond their core subscription infrastructure.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. https://workos.com/Links:Jacob Eiting (https://x.com/jeiting)RevenueCat (https://www.revenuecat.com/)Dipsea (https://www.dipseastories.com/)

Taylor Otwell is the creator of the Laravel framework. Taylor has created numerous paid products that have generated millions, such as:Laravel Forge (server provisioning/management)Laravel Vapor (serverless Laravel hosting with AWS)Laravel Envoyer (zero downtime PHP deployments)Laravel Nova (Laravel admin panel)In this interview, Taylor shares why he is now building Laravel Cloud - an infrastructure platform for Laravel apps and why Laravel Cloud needed VC funding.We also cover:The different challenges of bootstrapped and VC funded startupsHow the Laravel ecosystem became so entrepreneurial Building products for the average joe developerThe role of taste and craft in developer toolsWhat Taylor and Adam Wathan learned from each other Fear and Taylor's comparison with  Alex Honnold This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links: Laravel  Taylor Otwell Laravel Cloud Open jobs at Laravel Adam Wathan Chapters:00:00 The Journey of Laravel's Creator02:48 Transitioning from Bootstrap to VC Funding06:10 Building Laravel Cloud: A New Challenge09:04 The Shift in Company Structure and Culture11:50 Maintaining Quality and Usability in Development15:09 Community Impact and Collaboration17:56 Craftsmanship and Design Philosophy20:45 Navigating Growth and Market Needs23:54 Advice for Aspiring DevTool Founders26:48 Future Directions and Innovations in LaravelThank you to Michael Grinich for making this happen. Thank you to Ostap Brehin for introducing me to Laravel. Thank you to Hank Taylor for helping me prep.  

Join Adam Frankl, a specialist in developer-facing startups, as he shares key insights from 120 interviews with developers. He stresses the necessity of understanding developers' challenges through direct communication. Frankl also emphasizes experimenting with marketing strategies, enhancing documentation, and focusing on unique product differentiation. Discover how overcoming fears in outreach and prioritizing effective presentation can significantly impact a DevTools project's success, all while highlighting the value of authentic engagement with the developer community.

Søren Bramer Schmidt, co-founder and CEO of Prisma, discusses his journey in building a vibrant developer community. He highlights how intentional partnerships with educators and influencers fueled Prisma's growth. The conversation dives into the evolution of Prisma from Graphcool to a powerful ORM and the introduction of Prisma Postgres, showcasing community-driven development. Søren also explores innovative, usage-based pricing models and how emotional engagement with users shapes product decisions in a rapidly changing landscape.

In this discussion, Keith Casey, also known as Danger, shares insights from his impressive background in DevRel, having worked at companies like Twilio and Okta. He explores the evolution of Developer Relations, emphasizing a shift from technical focus to strategic marketing. Keith delves into the financial implications of DevRel, the necessity for accountability, and the importance of aligning with organizational goals. He also examines the shift from traditional SDKs to innovative tools through generative AI, highlighting solutions for enhancing developer productivity.

Louis Knight-Webb is the CEO and co-founder of Bloop.Bloop helps with modernizing legacy software, particularly focusing on COBOL and mainframes. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Takeaways:- Mainframes and COBOL are still foundational in many industries.- Bloop started with a focus on code search but evolved to address legacy code modernization.- The transition from COBOL to Java is a significant challenge for many enterprises.- Innovative approaches are needed to effectively translate legacy code.- Ensuring code quality during migration is crucial to avoid operational disruptions.- AI can enhance the code translation process but has limitations with legacy languages.Links:- Louis Knight-Webb - Bloop  Chapters:00:00 The Legacy of Mainframes and COBOL03:05 The Evolution of Bloop and Code Search05:58 Challenges in Modernizing Legacy Code08:48 Navigating the Enterprise Code Landscape12:11 The Transition from COBOL to Java15:05 Innovative Approaches to Code Translation18:02 Ensuring Code Quality and Functionality20:56 The Future of Development and AI Integration23:52 Building Relationships in the Enterprise Space26:45 The Long-Term Vision for Legacy Code Modernization

Guy Podjarny is the founder of Tessl - a startup that is rethinking how we build software.Guy previously founded Snyk - a dependency scanning tool worth billions of dollars. Before Snyk, Guy founded Blaze, which he sold to Akamai.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. In this conversation, we talk about the future of programming and the future of DevTools. The future of programming will focus on writing specifications.Trust in AI toolsSnyk is an example of how tools can integrate into existing workflows.Code can become disposable, allowing for flexibility in development.Specifications will serve as repositories of truth in software development.Developers will need to adapt their skills to leverage AI tools effectively.Community collaboration is essential for the evolution of AI development tools.AI simplifies and democratizes the process of software creationThanks to Anna Debenham for making this happen. 

Tessa Kriesel, founder of builtfor.dev, is a champion for DevTools founders looking to refine their go-to-market strategies. She discusses the transformation from lengthy development processes to a focused one-day sprint, emphasizing the importance of setting achievable outcomes. Tessa highlights the necessity of customer engagement and feedback in product development while addressing the challenges faced by technical founders in marketing. She shares effective strategies for aligning products with user needs and fostering a robust developer experience.