

Startups For the Rest of Us
Rob Walling
The original podcast for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped startups, this show follow the stories of founders as they start, acquire, and grow SaaS companies. Hear when they fail, struggle, succeed, and take you with them through the tumultuous life of a SaaS founder. If you like Mixergy, This Week in Startups, or SaaStr, you’ll enjoy Startup for the Rest of Us.
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Feb 3, 2026 • 56min
Episode 818 | What Does It Take to Be Successful? with Russ Walling
Russ Walling, an entrepreneur who runs a California electrical contracting firm and blends construction, operations, and poker lessons. He talks mindset and resilience. Short takes on overcoming perfectionism, getting comfortable with discomfort, decision-making under uncertainty, the Armageddon beer story, and why hard work and collaborative leadership matter.

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Jan 27, 2026 • 54min
Episode 817 | Bootstrapping in the Age of AI with Jason Cohen
Jason Cohen, founder of WP Engine and SmartBear and author of Hidden Multipliers, shares sharp startup frameworks in plain language. He explains small, systematic changes that create outsized impact. He talks about writing to clarify ideas, niching to de-risk growth, winning against funded rivals through execution, and practical ways founders should approach AI today.

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Jan 20, 2026 • 23min
Episode 816 | Developing an Editorial Eye, The Right Kind of Stubborn, and The Power of Focus (A Rob Solo Adventure)
Have you ever pushed so hard on an idea that you missed the signal to change direction?
In this solo episode, Rob Walling covers a wide range of topics and dives into three areas every founder should master: how to develop an editorial eye (or “taste”), the difference between persistence and obstinance, and why focus, not diversification remains the hardest, most valuable entrepreneurial skill.
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Topics we cover:
(1:55) – How to develop an “editorial eye” (and why it matters for founders)
(7:03) – When to get out of the way and let true experts lead
(8:07) – Why your product must start with a real problem (not just an idea)
(9:11) – Paul Graham’s The Right Kind of Stubborn: persistence vs. obstinance
(12:03) – Are you attached to your goal or just your first idea?
(13:44) – How great founders adapt to new data without losing momentum
(14:44) – Sam Parr on why “constant switching will kill you”
(16:30) – Focus as a founder’s hardest and most valuable skill
(16:49) – Why “Triple, Triple, Double, Double” isn’t dead (despite VC takes)
(18:34) – The problem with clickbait startup advice
Links from the Show:
MicroConf Europe 2026 – Join us in Reykjavík, Iceland (Sept 21–23) - Promo Code: ROB50
The Mom Test by Rob Fitzpatrick
Paul Graham: “The Right Kind of Stubborn”
Sam Parr (@thesamparr) | X
Harry Stebbings (@HarryStebbings) | X
Rob Walling YouTube Channel
The SaaS Playbook
If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you!
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Jan 13, 2026 • 31min
Episode 815 | Unexpected Skills Your Day Job Can Teach You About Entrepreneurship (Rob Solo)
Discover how your everyday job can secretly shape your entrepreneurial journey. From figuring things out with unclear instructions to learning respect for others' time, everyday roles offer surprising lessons. Grit is taught through hard, unglamorous work, while experience often trumps credentials. The value of self-education and knowing when to cut corners are crucial skills. Plus, Rob shares insights on choosing the right team and mastering management, emphasizing that success starts with curiosity and ownership.

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Jan 6, 2026 • 36min
Episode 814 | How to Beat a Venture-Backed Competitor (with Laura Roeder)
In this engaging discussion, Laura Roeder, founder of Paperbell and a pioneer in self-serve tools for coaches, shares insights on how her bootstrapped company triumphed over a $10M venture-funded rival. They explore why her competitor invested too heavily in engineering while neglecting marketing. Laura emphasizes the importance of focusing on the right customers and how limited paths for scaling impacted the competition. With clever strategies and efficient operations, Paperbell not only held its ground but emerged as the market leader.

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Dec 30, 2025 • 28min
Episode 813 | SaaS Predictions for 2026 (+ Reflections on 2025)
The discussion dives into how AI, SEO, and market dynamics will shape SaaS in 2026. Key predictions include significant headwinds for horizontal SaaS and the risks of over-relying on SEO. It’s anticipated that brand dominance will increase due to AI-driven recommendations. There's also a forecast for a continued AI VC bubble and rising usage of open-source models. Notably, a major no-code platform might struggle, and acquisitions of small SaaS startups are expected to rise as big players seek growth.

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Dec 23, 2025 • 29min
Episode 812 | The 2025 State of TinySeed
Rob Walling dives into the growth of TinySeed, revealing insights from funding over 210 B2B SaaS companies. He discusses the rise of AI-first startups and the unique challenges they face. The conversation highlights why vertical SaaS is outperforming horizontal options and emphasizes the vital role of founder communities in overcoming isolation. Listeners will learn about emerging patterns in applicant trends and how mentorship shapes success in the startup ecosystem.

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Dec 16, 2025 • 34min
Episode 811 | When to Delegate the "Core Four SaaS Skills," Freemium Retention Rates, and More Listener Questions (A Rob Solo Adventure)
Ruben Gamez, founder of SignWell and a freemium expert, joins Rob Walling to explore the intricacies of SaaS growth. The duo discusses what a 'good' freemium retention rate looks like, revealing that mobile apps usually hover around 3-5%, while SaaS needs to exceed 20%. Ruben emphasizes that the shape of the retention curve is more important than raw numbers. They also delve into when founders should start delegating key roles, explaining the nuances of handing off responsibilities in sales, marketing, and product leadership.

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Dec 9, 2025 • 54min
Episode 810 | The Best A.I. Coding Stack, Shipping Fast, and More Listener Questions (With Derrick Reimer)
In a lively discussion, Derrick Reimer, founder of SavvyCal, dives into the best AI coding stacks like Windsurf and Cursor, revealing how they enhance development workflows. He shares insights on balancing speed and polish as a solo founder and smartly utilizes reusable UI components. They explore how AI is shifting startup risks—from market fit to feasibility—and discuss practical security measures like rate limiting and IP bans. Derrick's expertise provides a fresh perspective on navigating the ever-evolving tech landscape.

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Dec 2, 2025 • 40min
Episode 809 | What I Learned Diving into A.I. for 100 Days (with Craig Hewitt)
Craig Hewitt, founder of Castos and creator of the '100 Days of AI' YouTube series, shares insights from his deep dive into AI tools for SaaS founders. He reveals surprising takeaways, ranks Claude Code above ChatGPT for developers, and discusses how Manus automates complex tasks. Craig explains the reality of AI agents cutting customer support load in half and his strategies for building new products beyond Castos, including exciting AI experiments. His candid thoughts on motivation and the risks of growth add an engaging layer to the conversation.


