
How Leaders Think with Kenny Lange
Discover the secrets to impactful leadership with How Leaders Think, hosted by Kenny Lange. This podcast is your go-to resource for insights from top leaders across various industries. Each episode delves into the minds of successful entrepreneurs, CEOs, and thought leaders to uncover strategies for personal and professional growth.
Key Topics Covered:
- Emotional goals and effective leadership
- Coaching and employee retention
- Innovation and AI in business
- Escaping hustle culture
- Building strong organizational values
- Adaptability in nonprofit leadership
- The intersection of personal growth and spirituality
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Latest episodes

May 21, 2025 • 38min
How Jay Owen Thinks About Staying Competitive by Embracing Artificial Intelligence
On today's episode of "How Leaders Think," Kenny Lange sits down with Jay Owen, CEO and founder of Business Builders, for a forward-thinking conversation about the impact of AI on leadership, creativity, and the future of work. Jay shares his perspective on how leaders can leverage AI to enhance efficiency, fuel innovation, and navigate rapid technological change. Together, they dive into the realities of adopting AI in agency and ministry contexts, overcoming fears of job loss, and the importance of intentional prompt engineering and creativity in a tech-driven world. Jay also offers practical advice for embracing AI as a tool for growth and staying ahead in a competitive marketplace. Whether you're a seasoned executive or just curious about the future of business, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you and your team thrive in the AI era.Other places to find the “How Leaders Think” podcast: * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807* Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh* Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL2tlZXAtcmlzaW5nLXdpdGgta2VubnktbGFuZ2U=* Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b13c5d64-50db-4626-9685-c356116ec54b * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts* Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/Jay Owen Resources:Website: https://businessbldrs.com/LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayowen/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jayowen/Instagram: https://instagram.com/jayowenTwitter username: https://x.com/owendesignYouTube URL: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ-K1YUElkpzAh3RfNk_xhgBuilding a Business that Lasts: https://amzn.to/3GU4mqu#leadership #ArtificialIntelligence #BusinessGrowth #FutureOfWork #Entrepreneurship
(00:00) - Tech Giants Compete for Attention
(03:52) - AI Awareness Gap Among Agency Owners
(07:31) - "Balancing Speed with Thoughtful Craftsmanship"
(11:03) - AI Shifts Student Perspectives
(13:34) - "AI Skills for Job Security"
(16:30) - "Adapting to AI Collaboration"
(22:24) - Navigating AI for Sustainable Leadership
(24:30) - AI Advisory Companion
(27:07) - AI as Personal Board of Directors
(31:17) - "In-Person Interaction vs. AI Bias"
(33:25) - Enhancing AI Instructions for Quality
(37:12) - Listener Appreciation & Feedback Request

May 14, 2025 • 44min
How Casey Muze Thinks About Empowering Teams by Slowing Down and Tuning In
Casey Muze, a music behavior cognitive specialist and founder of Avenue Speak, dives into the transformative power of being present as a leader. He shares how music therapy enhances mental health for diverse individuals, including neurodivergent youth and those with dementia. Casey emphasizes the importance of slowing down, fostering empathy, and developing genuine connections within teams. Listeners gain actionable tips for mindfulness, supporting others, and embracing intentional living to create a more compassionate work environment.

May 7, 2025 • 41min
How Chris Barnes Thinks About Evolving Leadership from Problem-Solving to Development
In a captivating discussion, guest Chris Barnes, a fractional integrator and executive coach at Wolf’s Edge Integrators, delves into evolving leadership. He emphasizes the shift from mere problem-solving to fostering team development. Barnes highlights the significance of self-awareness and conscious leadership, providing actionable frameworks like The Leadership Circle. He also critiques the dangers of insecurity in leadership that stifles team growth. With practical insights, he encourages leaders to embrace continuous personal growth and proactive strategies for meaningful organizational change.

Apr 30, 2025 • 42min
How Ian McCoog Thinks About Standing Out as an Emerging Leader
Ian McCoog, an author and researcher in contemporary leadership theory, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of leadership. He emphasizes the balance between achieving results and valuing people, discussing the shift from transactional to transformational leadership. Ian highlights the importance of self-awareness and reflection for emerging leaders while navigating complex environments. He also explores the impact of decisions on organizational culture, stressing that positive leadership can create a ripple effect, fostering trust and collaboration.

Apr 23, 2025 • 39min
How Dr. Michael Brabant Thinks About Becoming a Truly Trusted Leader
On today’s episode of "How Leaders Think," Kenny Lange sits down with Dr. Michael Brabant, founder of Candor and Coherence, for a deep dive into leadership from the inside out. Together, they explore how prevailing definitions of success and productivity often emphasize external achievement—at the expense of true fulfillment. Dr. Brabant candidly shares strategies for helping leaders move from the “shallows” of surface-level influence into the “depths” of authentic self-alignment, unveiling the importance of rest, comfort in one’s own skin, and psychological safety. The conversation touches on recognizing hidden motivations, breaking free from societal and internal indoctrination, and building high-trust, high-performance cultures by leading from a place of inward calm and genuine presence. Packed with practical steps and thought-provoking wisdom, this episode is a must-listen for leaders ready to harmonize their personal and professional lives and lead with greater impact.Other places to find the “How Leaders Think” podcast: * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807* Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh* Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL2tlZXAtcmlzaW5nLXdpdGgta2VubnktbGFuZ2U=* Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b13c5d64-50db-4626-9685-c356116ec54b * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts* Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/Dr. Michael Brabant Resources:Website: https://candorandcoherence.com/LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-brabant-phd-124963b/#howleadersthink #Leadership #Podcast #AuthenticLeadership #CandorAndCoherence #PsychologicalSafety #LeadFromWithin

Apr 16, 2025 • 44min
How Laura Gallaher Thinks About Self-Improvement Through Radical Self-Acceptance
On today's episode of "How Leaders Think," Kenny Lange engages in an insightful conversation with Dr. Laura Gallaher, CEO and co-founder of Gallaher Edge, about the transformative power of radical self-acceptance and self-improvement for high achievers. Dive into this captivating discussion as they explore how self-judgment differs from self-improvement, and the importance of nurturing self-acceptance to accelerate personal and professional growth. With practical advice on taking credit for even small accomplishments and clear distinctions between complacency and genuine contentment, Laura empowers listeners to reshape their mindset. Other places to find the “How Leaders Think” podcast: * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807* Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh* Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL2tlZXAtcmlzaW5nLXdpdGgta2VubnktbGFuZ2U=* Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b13c5d64-50db-4626-9685-c356116ec54b* YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts* Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/ Dr. Laura Gallaher Resources:Website: https://drlauragallaher.com/LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-gallaher-phd/Self-Acceptance Quiz: https://selfacceptancequiz.com/Books Mentioned:The Missing Links: Launching a High Performing Company Culture: https://amzn.to/3XX6N1jThe Subtle Art of Not Giving an F: https://amzn.to/42dVBjwThe Gap and The Gain: The High Achievers' Guide to Happiness, Confidence, and Success: https://amzn.to/3ReSS31#HowLeadersThink #SelfAcceptance #GrowthMindset #HighAchievers #LeadershipPodcast
(00:00) - "How Leaders Think Podcast Intro"
(04:24) - Complacency vs. Contentment in Growth
(08:45) - Redefining Self-Improvement and Acceptance
(09:46) - Human Behavior Frameworks in Coaching
(12:44) - "The High Achiever's Fallacy"
(18:13) - "Measuring Success: A New Perspective"
(20:18) - Choosing Self-Care Over Goals
(22:50) - "Positive Mindset for High Achievers"
(27:38) - Self-Forgiveness and Acceptance Journey
(28:26) - Breaking the Anxiety Feedback Loop
(34:38) - Self-Acceptance vs. Self-Improvement Fears
(37:44) - Innate Desire for Personal Growth
(39:19) - Self-Judgment in Young Athletes
(43:18) - "Engage for Feedback and Discovery"

Apr 9, 2025 • 39min
How Jennifer Cresswell Thinks About Leveraging Uncertainty for Growth
In today's episode of "How Leaders Think," Kenny Lange welcomes Jennifer Cresswell, founder and principal of Thoughtgro, for an insightful conversation on leading through uncertainty and making proactive decisions in times of change. They explore the importance of choosing a path, the distinction between urgent and important tasks, and how leaders can instill confidence by managing uncertainty. Jennifer shares her expertise on problem-solving, defining your legacy, and the power of intelligent failures. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting your business journey, this episode offers valuable strategies to prioritize effectively and move forward with confidence. Other places to find the “How Leaders Think” podcast: * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807* Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh* Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL2tlZXAtcmlzaW5nLXdpdGgta2VubnktbGFuZ2U=* Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b13c5d64-50db-4626-9685-c356116ec54b * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts* Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/Jennifer Cresswell Resources:Website: https://www.thoughtgro.com/LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-cresswell/Problem Solving Guide: https://www.thoughtgro.com/organized-business-guideBooks Mentioned:Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well: https://amzn.to/42cvtEiThe Infinite Game: https://amzn.to/3RzzHAQ#DecisionMaking #Entrepreneurship #HowLeadersThink #JenniferCresswell #ThoughtGro
(00:00) - HLT Jennifer Cresswell Full Interview
(00:33) - Marker

Apr 2, 2025 • 37min
How Jon Sabes Thinks About The Secret to Healthy Wealthy Longevity
Join Jon Sabes, a leading entrepreneur and author focused on longevity and financial well-being, as he shares transformative insights from his book, "Healthy Wealthy Longevity." Discover how mindset shifts can empower you to overcome self-limiting beliefs and pursue both health and prosperity. Jon highlights the importance of self-reflection, resilience, and building meaningful connections, urging listeners to embrace proactive lifestyle choices. He also explores how intentionality and the power of compounding can lead to a fulfilling life.

Mar 26, 2025 • 49min
How Dawn Franks Thinks About Navigating Shifts in Nonprofit Funding
Dawn Franks, President and CEO of Dawn Franks Strategic Solutions, brings 40 years of nonprofit expertise to the discussion. She highlights how nonprofits can carve out unique narratives to combat crowded markets. Dawn explores the shift from government grants to private donations, emphasizing storytelling as key for engagement. The conversation dives into strategic adaptation to political changes, stressing the need for diverse funding sources and collaboration. Listeners will find actionable advice to navigate the evolving landscape of philanthropy.

Mar 19, 2025 • 42min
How Tara Landes Thinks About The Power of Receiving Feedback Gratefully
On today's episode of "How Leaders Think," Kenny Lange engages in an insightful conversation with Tara Landes, founder and consultant, delving into the nuances of effective feedback in leadership. Tara, with her extensive experience as the secret weapon behind numerous small businesses, shares her compelling insights on transforming feedback into collaborative advice. Discover the art of receiving feedback with gratitude, the significant distinction between feedback and advice, and how leaders can cultivate a culture of continuous improvement. This episode is packed with strategies to enhance your feedback dynamics, whether you're new to leadership or have years of experience.Other places to find the “How Leaders Think” podcast: * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807* Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh* Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL2tlZXAtcmlzaW5nLXdpdGgta2VubnktbGFuZ2U=* Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b13c5d64-50db-4626-9685-c356116ec54b* YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts* Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/Tara Landes Resources:Website: https://bellrock.ca/LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taralandes#LeadershipSkills #FeedbackCulture #MindsetShift #EffectiveCommunication #LeadershipGrowth
(00:00) - Rethinking Feedback: Giving vs.Receiving
(03:49) - "Rethinking Feedback and Its Impact"
(07:00) - Leadership,Parenting,&EffectiveFeedback
(11:42) - Curiosity and Honest Feedback Dynamics
(16:01) - Improving Feedback Reception Skills
(19:14) - Feedback and Growth Appreciation
(22:02) - Addressing Mentor's Inappropriate Behavior
(25:33) - Relational Equity in Feedback Dynamics
(27:48) - Transparent Evaluation Process
(29:49) - Leadership and the Golden Rule
(35:25) - Communication Transformation with Chris Voss Methods
(37:12) - ShowerThoughtsProcess
(40:41) - "Paying Kindness Forward"