
2Bobs—with David C. Baker and Blair Enns
Conversations on the art of creative entrepreneurship with David C. Baker and Blair Enns
Latest episodes

Feb 14, 2024 • 22min
Attending the Way
Blair shares his experiences visiting a highly principled creative firm in New Zealand. The hosts discuss their definition of success and admire a firm that prioritizes doing good work. They explore the concept of 'attending the way' and the importance of listening to clients and evaluating principles.

Jan 31, 2024 • 23min
A 7-part Theory of Principal Compensation
The hosts discuss the conflicts that arise when determining principal compensation in firms with multiple owners. They explain the three components of compensation - ownership, work, and risk. They explore the various forms of risk associated with lending money to a company. They also delve into the principles of partner compensation, including ownership percentage and contribution level.

Jan 17, 2024 • 29min
The Time Value of Knowledge
The podcast explores the power of compound interest in knowledge and career growth, drawing parallels between investing money and investing in learning. It discusses the value of continuous learning and the significance of time in achieving significant growth. The concept of being replaced by an archived version of oneself is also explored. The importance of avoiding early specialization, gaining different perspectives, and maintaining a fast pace of learning is emphasized.

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Jan 3, 2024 • 28min
Revisiting Remote Work
Discussion on the pros and cons of remote work in the post-pandemic economy, including the decline in company culture, team communication, collaboration, creativity, and innovation. Exploring challenges of onboarding young employees and creating the next generation of talent. Highlighting the issues of loneliness, promotion rates, collaboration, and misunderstandings in remote work. Examining the impact of remote work on younger teams and women. Ideas for managing remote or hybrid work, including mandatory yearly retreats and fostering collaboration.

Dec 20, 2023 • 25min
Ditch the (Sales) Script
The podcast discusses the drawbacks of using sales scripts in creative firms and emphasizes the need for wide-ranging conversations. It explores the relationship between autonomy and response to unexpected situations. The hosts share their experiences of presenting last minute and without power. The debate between frameworks and scripts in sales is explored, with a conclusion that frameworks strike a balance. The chapter also highlights the importance of considering autonomy and affinity in sales.

Dec 6, 2023 • 24min
Constrained by Artificial Boundaries
The podcast explores the concept of bounded rationality and how it affects decision-making within organizations. It discusses the clash between individual department goals and overall organizational goals. It also explores the impact of CEOs and Mavericks within an organization and questions the origin and impact of the 80-20 rule in marketing budget allocation. Finally, it emphasizes the importance of embracing the convergence of disciplines in the design industry and redefining firm positioning based on client's urgent and expensive problems.

Nov 22, 2023 • 26min
A Theory of Leisure
The hosts discuss the theory of leisure and the advice of 'do what you love and the money will follow.' They explore the nuance of finding fulfillment in work and the importance of staying grounded. They also talk about drawing boundaries between work and leisure, the significance of hobbies, and balancing work and leisure to create a fulfilling life.

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Nov 8, 2023 • 28min
The Death Throes of the Pitch
Explore the costs and impact of pitching in the marketing industry, with a focus on the influence of procurement and search consultants. Discover the financial burden on clients and agencies, and the interesting findings about the role of the incumbent agency in winning new business. Learn about the low success rate of agency pitches and the addictive nature of participating in them. Lastly, uncover the possible connection between CMO job changes and increased frequency of pitches.

Oct 25, 2023 • 30min
How Much Should You Spend on Your Own Marketing?
The podcast discusses budget allocation for marketing efforts, including website development, search engine marketing, and email automation. It explores the pros and cons of hiring a PR firm and highlights the value of content creation. The use of chat GPT and social media spending are also discussed, with an emphasis on LinkedIn. The importance of personalized marketing strategies, setting aside a monthly budget, and the debate around reasonable marketing budgets for small firms are explored.

Oct 11, 2023 • 23min
The Conflicting Ethics of Selling and Negotiating
The podcast discusses the differences between selling expertise and bargaining ethics, emphasizing the need to adapt bargaining approaches. It explores the conflicting ethics of selling and negotiating, contrasting the 'ideal school' with the 'poker school'. The chapter also highlights the significance of preparation, strategic approach, relationships, motivations, and emotional control in selling and negotiating.
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