

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Tokens Media
What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
Episodes
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Mar 3, 2025 • 54min
198: Nancy French: Ghosted by Her Own Tribe
Nancy French, a five-time New York Times bestselling ghostwriter and investigative journalist, shares her journey of truth-telling and personal betrayal in her memoir, "Ghosted: An American Story." She discusses the repercussions of opposing Donald Trump within her conservative community and her harrowing investigation into abuse at Kanakuk Camp. French addresses the struggle of maintaining faith amidst political turmoil, the complexities of identity shaped by trauma, and the necessity of kindness in bridging ideological divides.

Feb 28, 2025 • 1h 7min
197: Unabridged Interview: Mpho Tutu van Furth
Mpho Tutu van Furth, Episcopal priest, artist, and daughter of Desmond Tutu, shares her insights on forgiveness and reconciliation. She compares the English apology of 'forgive me' to the Xhosa phrase 'ndicela uxolo,' meaning 'I ask for peace,' emphasizing a shift from self-centeredness to true community healing. Exploring the aftermath of Apartheid, she discusses the significance of Ubuntu and how personal stories illuminate paths to forgiveness. Mpho also reflects on her emotional journey as a priest and the challenges of navigating faith and identity.

Feb 24, 2025 • 54min
197: Mpho Tutu van Furth: The Tutu Legacy of Forgiveness and Reconciliation
Mpho Tutu van Furth, daughter of the late Archbishop Desmond Tutu, is an Episcopalian priest and social activist dedicated to forgiveness and reconciliation. In a stirring discussion, she explores the South African philosophy of Ubuntu and contrasts traditional Western views on apology with the concept of 'asking for peace.' Mpho shares personal anecdotes from her upbringing in apartheid and reflects on her father's courageous legacy. This heartfelt conversation delves into the power of community, love, and the journey toward genuine healing and understanding.

Feb 21, 2025 • 1h 29min
196: Unabridged Interview: Russ Taff
Russ Taff, a legendary Gospel artist with six Grammys and a history of overcoming personal struggles, shares his deeply emotional journey. He candidly discusses the emptiness following his initial success, battles with alcoholism, and the impact of childhood trauma. Taff highlights the role of music in his healing process and his quest for sobriety, reflecting on how faith and family have shaped his identity. Additionally, he explores the inspiration behind his new album and the transformative power of music in his life.

Feb 17, 2025 • 54min
196: Russ Taff: Music, Addiction, and Redemption
Russ Taff, a celebrated Gospel music legend with six Grammys, shares his heartfelt journey through childhood trauma and addiction. He recalls the fleeting joy of his early success and the profound struggles that followed. Taff discusses the impact of a strict upbringing, family alcoholism, and how he found redemption through music and community support. He emphasizes the transformative power of recovery, the importance of vulnerability, and the unexpected creative process of making a new album, reflecting his growth and healing.

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Feb 14, 2025 • 1h 7min
195: Unabridged Interview: Alexandra Solomon
Renowned relationship expert Alexandra Solomon shares her insights from her acclaimed work, 'Loving Bravely.' She discusses the importance of self-awareness and understanding past experiences to enhance current relationships. The conversation spotlights the art of apology and the balance between authenticity and boundaries. Solomon emphasizes navigating love with mindfulness while reflecting on personal anecdotes. Expect practical tools to foster thriving intimacy and resilience in long-term relationships, perfect for anyone looking to improve their connections.

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Feb 10, 2025 • 55min
195: Alexandra Solomon: How to Have Flourishing Relationships
Dr. Alexandra Solomon, a licensed clinical psychologist and relationship expert, shares valuable insights to enhance love lives just in time for Valentine's Day. She emphasizes the importance of self-awareness in relationships and how understanding past experiences can improve present connections. Solomon discusses the art of apology, being present with partners, and navigating challenges in long-term love. Listeners gain practical tools for fostering intimacy and personal growth, highlighting the interconnectedness of mental health and relationship success.

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Feb 7, 2025 • 58min
194: Unabridged Interview: Shankar Vedantam
Shankar Vedantam, host of Hidden Brain, dives deep into the complexities of human behavior, emphasizing that our conscious minds are just the tip of the iceberg. He discusses his journey from engineering to journalism, highlighting the unpredictable nature of life. The conversation explores the balance of faith and science in morality, the rise of anti-science sentiments, and the importance of self-awareness in personal growth. Vedantam urges listeners to embrace curiosity and shared humanity to navigate conflicts and foster connections.

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Feb 3, 2025 • 54min
194: Shankar Vedantam: Hidden Brain
Shankar Vedantam, the insightful host of the 'Hidden Brain' podcast, examines the unconscious forces shaping our decisions and behaviors. He delves into how our minds work behind the scenes, often influencing our choices more than we realize. Discussing the journey from engineering to empathy, he highlights the ties between psychological research and ancient wisdom. Vedantam emphasizes the importance of self-forgiveness and curiosity, revealing how these elements can transform our understanding of ourselves and foster a deeper connection to our shared humanity.

Jan 31, 2025 • 1h 23min
193: Unabridged Interview: Nadia Bolz-Weber
Nadia Bolz-Weber, an ordained Lutheran pastor and bestselling author, shares her transformative journey after leaving Christian Fundamentalism. She discusses the dualistic thinking present in both religious and secular activism. Nadia reflects on the healing power of community singing and the impact of grief from losing her nephew. She emphasizes compassion in recovery and the importance of authenticity in a public life. Throughout the conversation, she advocates for emotional intelligence and inclusive communities that embrace vulnerability.