No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

210: Phil Vischer and Skye Jethani: Navigating Faith, Politics, and Humor

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May 26, 2025
Phil Vischer, co-creator of VeggieTales and co-host of the Holy Post, teams up with Skye Jethani, a pastor and author known for his critiques of evangelical subculture. They dive into the intricate relationship between faith and politics, discussing the troubling rise of movements like MAGA within the church. Humor plays a key role as they navigate serious topics, emphasizing the need for joy in discourse. The duo also explores the connection between faith and social justice, critiquing historical divides while sharing their personal journeys in advocating for meaningful change.
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ANECDOTE

Phil's Podcast Origin Story

  • Phil Vischer started a podcast to provide a Christian perspective missing from NPR conversations he listened to.
  • His race explainer video in 2020 unexpectedly reached millions and brought new audience and controversy.
INSIGHT

Evangelicalism's Continuity with Trump

  • White evangelical Christianity in America has longstanding ties to nativism and preserving strict hierarchies.
  • Donald Trump personified values like prosperity gospel and spiritual warfare already ingrained in evangelical culture.
ADVICE

Speak Thoughtfully and Contextually

  • Choose carefully which issues and forums to speak about, respecting audience and subject complexity.
  • Nuance is essential; quick social media soundbites cannot replace thoughtful, extended conversations.
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