

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Tokens Media
What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Aug 25, 2025 • 52min
224: Anne-Laure Le Cunff: Change Your Life With Tiny Experiments
Join neuroscientist and entrepreneur Anne-Laure Le Cunff as she shares her insights on redefining success through curiosity and experimentation. After a life-threatening health scare, she emphasizes adopting an experimental mindset over rigid goals. Explore the importance of understanding procrastination as a communication tool, overcoming perfectionism, and embracing mistakes as growth opportunities. Anne-Laure introduces 'tiny experiments,' a practical way to align personal values with goals, fostering a journey of self-improvement and discovery.

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Aug 22, 2025 • 1h 10min
223: Unabridged Interview: Baratunde Thurston
Baratunde Thurston, an Emmy-nominated writer and host, dives into the human experience in the age of AI. He discusses the intricate relationship between technology and humanity, emphasizing storytelling as a bridge to interdependence. Baratunde reflects on his journey through satire and how it shapes social commentary, while examining the impact of AI on our identities and creativity. The conversation also highlights the need for community engagement and reassessing power dynamics in technology, urging listeners to explore meaningful connections in this evolving landscape.

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Aug 18, 2025 • 52min
223: Baratunde Thurston: Being Human in the Age of AI
Baratunde Thurston, a comedian and Emmy-nominated host of Life With Machines, dives deep into what it means to be human in the age of AI. He discusses how technology shapes our identities and challenges our narratives. Thurston emphasizes the importance of interdependence with nature and one another in the digital age. He explores the need for democratizing technology, advocating for community engagement to influence AI governance. Ultimately, he encourages us to harness AI for collective good, ensuring it reflects our shared values.

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Aug 15, 2025 • 1h 9min
222: Unabridged Interview: Dan Heath
Dan Heath, bestselling author of 'Reset: How to Change What’s Not Working,' shares practical insights into personal and professional transformation. He highlights strategies for adapting to change, emphasizing the importance of intentionality in relationships and aligning actions with goals. A standout story from his drive-thru experience offers lessons in operational efficiency. He discusses finding fulfillment in work, and the power of positive environments in fostering personal growth, all while critiquing the pitfalls of conventional business practices.

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Aug 11, 2025 • 52min
222: Dan Heath: How to Change What’s Not Working
Dan Heath, bestselling author and host of What It's Like To Be, shares insights from his book on transforming what's not working in life and work. He discusses how real change emerges from discarding outdated methods and offers strategies for enhancing operational efficiency. Heath emphasizes the importance of identifying leverage points for significant change and the emotional connections that drive motivation. Through engaging stories, he reveals how intentionality can foster deeper relationships and facilitate meaningful improvements.

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Aug 8, 2025 • 1h 15min
221: Unabridged Interview: Sharon McMahon
Sharon McMahon, known as America's government teacher, is an award-winning educator and podcast host. In this engaging conversation, she discusses the urgent need for informed civic participation and how education can be a transformative force. Sharon shares her journey of simplifying complex political topics and fostering critical thinking among students. She also tackles the challenges of online negativity and promotes joy as a form of resistance, all while encouraging a compassionate approach to politics and community engagement.

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Aug 4, 2025 • 52min
221: Sharon McMahon: Escaping the Partisan Trap
Sharon McMahon, an educator and author known as "America's Government Teacher," discusses the importance of nonpartisanship in today's political climate. She emphasizes the need for informed civic participation and the power of education to foster understanding. Throughout the conversation, she highlights the significance of recognizing complexity, the dangers of money in politics, and cultivating joy despite adversity. McMahon encourages listeners to engage positively in political discussions and take small actions toward meaningful change.

Aug 1, 2025 • 1h 3min
220: Unabridged Interview: Emma Varvaloucas
Emma Varvaloucas, Executive Director of The Progress Network and a journalist with a passion for Buddhism, shares insights on reclaiming agency in a world filled with anxiety. She discusses the transformative power of intentional news consumption and mindfulness practices, along with practical tips for reducing despair and igniting positive action. Emma offers a hopeful perspective on societal progress, highlighting significant advancements amidst challenges like climate change and poverty. Her personal journey intertwines spirituality and journalism, creating a dialogue filled with humor and realism.

Jul 28, 2025 • 52min
220: Emma Varvaloucas: Mind Over Media
Emma Varvaloucas, Executive Director of The Progress Network, dives into how our news consumption shapes our reality. She shares practical tips for engaging with media that foster positivity and action. Emma's journey through Buddhism and mindfulness reveals tools for transforming despair into hope, emphasizing the importance of context and intentionality. The discussion also critiques the role of journalism in social justice, advocating for a nonpartisan, solutions-oriented approach in a polarized society.

Jul 25, 2025 • 1h 6min
219: Unabridged Interview: Melina Laboucan-Massimo
Melina Laboucan-Massimo, a Lubicon Cree activist and founder of Indigenous Climate Action, shares her journey of advocating for climate justice and Indigenous rights. She reflects on the resilience required in the fight against colonialism and resource extraction, emphasizing the importance of Indigenous knowledge. Melina also discusses her path to recovery from health challenges while maintaining her activism. The conversation touches on the significant impact of environmental issues on communities and the necessity for accountability in resource extraction practices.