This is our unabridged interview with Francis Collins. Francis Collins has led some of the most significant scientific initiatives of our time, including the Human Genome Project and the National Institutes of Health under three U.S. presidents. In his new book, The Road to Wisdom, Collins grapples with the erosion of public trust in science, the polarization of society, and the challenge of discerning truth in the modern age. In this conversation, Collins shares insights from his experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic, his journey from atheism to Christian faith, and the importance of humility in the pursuit of knowledge. He reflects on his unlikely friendship with the late atheist Christopher Hitchens, the philosophical roots of truth skepticism, and the need for genuine dialogue across divides. Join us as we explore how wisdom, truth, science, and faith intersect—and why curiosity and compassion might just be the antidote to our age of distrust. Show Notes Resources: "The Road to Wisdom" by Francis Collins  Similar NSE episodes: Quincy Byrdsong: Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder David Wilkinson: The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith Rachel Held Evans, Francis Collins, and Ed Larson: Faith, Science, Humility PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode  Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com. Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTubeFollow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTubeFollow Lee: Instagram | TwitterJoin our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn adverti… Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Francis Collins has led some of the most significant scientific initiatives of our time, including the Human Genome Project and the National Institutes of Health under three U.S. presidents. In his new book, The Road to Wisdom, Collins grapples with the erosion of public trust in science, the polarization of society, and the challenge of discerning truth in the modern age. In this conversation, Collins shares insights from his experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic, his journey from atheism to Christian faith, and the importance of humility in the pursuit of knowledge. He reflects on his unlikely friendship with the late atheist Christopher Hitchens, the philosophical roots of truth skepticism, and the need for genuine dialogue across divides. Join us as we explore how wisdom, truth, science, and faith intersect—and why curiosity and compassion might just be the antidote to our age of distrust. Show Notes Resources: "The Road to Wisdom" by Francis Collins Similar NSE episodes: Quincy Byrdsong: Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder David Wilkinson: The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith Rachel Held Evans, Francis Collins, and Ed Larson: Faith, Science, Humility PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com. Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTubeFollow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTubeFollow Lee: Instagram | TwitterJoin our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sit… Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

This is our unabridged interview with Nancy French. Nancy French has spent her career helping others tell their stories. As a five-time New York Times bestselling ghostwriter, she has worked with prominent conservatives, celebrities, and political figures. But in her new memoir, Ghosted: An American Story, Nancy turns the pen on herself, recounting her own journey through faith, politics, and personal betrayal. A lifelong conservative, Nancy never expected that standing against Donald Trump would lead to ostracism from her own community. Nor did she foresee how uncovering systemic abuse at a major Christian camp would result in personal vitriol toward her. In this deeply honest conversation, Nancy and Lee discuss the personal cost of truth-telling, the cultural divide in America, and how faith can persist even amid profound disappointment. Show Notes Resources: Ghosted: An American Story by Nancy French David French’s NYT column USA Today article: Kanakuk Abuse Investigation Gretchen Carlson’s work on NDAs, workplace harassment No More SAMHSA  Similar NSE episodes: David French & Russell Moore: How Should Christians Do Politics Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Kristin Du Mez sits with David French  PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTubeFollow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTubeFollow Lee: Instagram | TwitterJoin our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to prov… Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Nancy French, a five-time New York Times bestselling ghostwriter and investigative journalist, shares her journey of truth-telling and personal betrayal in her memoir, "Ghosted: An American Story." She discusses the repercussions of opposing Donald Trump within her conservative community and her harrowing investigation into abuse at Kanakuk Camp. French addresses the struggle of maintaining faith amidst political turmoil, the complexities of identity shaped by trauma, and the necessity of kindness in bridging ideological divides.

Mpho Tutu van Furth, Episcopal priest, artist, and daughter of Desmond Tutu, shares her insights on forgiveness and reconciliation. She compares the English apology of 'forgive me' to the Xhosa phrase 'ndicela uxolo,' meaning 'I ask for peace,' emphasizing a shift from self-centeredness to true community healing. Exploring the aftermath of Apartheid, she discusses the significance of Ubuntu and how personal stories illuminate paths to forgiveness. Mpho also reflects on her emotional journey as a priest and the challenges of navigating faith and identity.

Mpho Tutu van Furth, daughter of the late Archbishop Desmond Tutu, is an Episcopalian priest and social activist dedicated to forgiveness and reconciliation. In a stirring discussion, she explores the South African philosophy of Ubuntu and contrasts traditional Western views on apology with the concept of 'asking for peace.' Mpho shares personal anecdotes from her upbringing in apartheid and reflects on her father's courageous legacy. This heartfelt conversation delves into the power of community, love, and the journey toward genuine healing and understanding.

Russ Taff, a legendary Gospel artist with six Grammys and a history of overcoming personal struggles, shares his deeply emotional journey. He candidly discusses the emptiness following his initial success, battles with alcoholism, and the impact of childhood trauma. Taff highlights the role of music in his healing process and his quest for sobriety, reflecting on how faith and family have shaped his identity. Additionally, he explores the inspiration behind his new album and the transformative power of music in his life.

Russ Taff, a celebrated Gospel music legend with six Grammys, shares his heartfelt journey through childhood trauma and addiction. He recalls the fleeting joy of his early success and the profound struggles that followed. Taff discusses the impact of a strict upbringing, family alcoholism, and how he found redemption through music and community support. He emphasizes the transformative power of recovery, the importance of vulnerability, and the unexpected creative process of making a new album, reflecting his growth and healing.

Renowned relationship expert Alexandra Solomon shares her insights from her acclaimed work, 'Loving Bravely.' She discusses the importance of self-awareness and understanding past experiences to enhance current relationships. The conversation spotlights the art of apology and the balance between authenticity and boundaries. Solomon emphasizes navigating love with mindfulness while reflecting on personal anecdotes. Expect practical tools to foster thriving intimacy and resilience in long-term relationships, perfect for anyone looking to improve their connections.

Dr. Alexandra Solomon, a licensed clinical psychologist and relationship expert, shares valuable insights to enhance love lives just in time for Valentine's Day. She emphasizes the importance of self-awareness in relationships and how understanding past experiences can improve present connections. Solomon discusses the art of apology, being present with partners, and navigating challenges in long-term love. Listeners gain practical tools for fostering intimacy and personal growth, highlighting the interconnectedness of mental health and relationship success.