

210: Unabridged Interview: Holy Post
10 snips May 30, 2025
Phil Vischer, co-creator of VeggieTales, and Skye Jethani, a pastor and author, tackle the intersection of faith and culture with humor and insight. They discuss the challenges faced by evangelicals in a changing sociopolitical landscape, including the uncomfortable alignment with Trumpism. The duo emphasizes the power of humor in addressing serious topics like social justice and the role of faith in community engagement. They also reflect on the creative journey behind VeggieTales, highlighting the importance of joyful creation amidst struggle.
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Historic Nativism in Evangelicalism
- American white evangelicalism has a through line of nativism and protectionism dating back to the 1920s.
- It historically resents threats to status quo power, often using the Bible to uphold strict social hierarchies.
Trump Embodies Evangelical Traits
- Donald Trump embodies long-held evangelical values: celebrity, prosperity, and black-and-white spiritual warfare.
- These traits made him especially attractive to the evangelical community primed for such a leader.
Choosing When To Speak Up
- Speak out when an issue meaningfully impacts your audience and aligns with your core values.
- Accept personal cost for important stands but avoid alienating your core supporters needlessly.