

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Tokens Media
What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
Episodes
Mentioned books

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Sep 8, 2025 • 51min
226: Amy Sherman: A Faith-Based Vision for the Common Good
In this engaging conversation, Amy Sherman, Senior Fellow at the Sagamore Institute and author of Agents of Flourishing, reimagines faith communities as vibrant forces for civic renewal. She explores the idea of churches contributing tangibly to society by promoting beauty, justice, and holistic well-being. Sherman advocates for a faith deeply integrated with education, urban planning, and restorative justice. With her framework on flourishing, she challenges listeners to envision faith not as a private belief but as a transformative public witness.

28 snips
Sep 5, 2025 • 1h 25min
225: Unabridged Interview: Parker Palmer (Part 1)
In this engaging conversation, Parker Palmer, a distinguished Quaker writer and activist, shares his journey toward finding true vocation. At 86, he reflects on the challenges of depression and how embracing contradictions has shaped his understanding of a fulfilling life. He emphasizes the importance of vulnerability in education and the courage needed to confront societal expectations versus personal desires. Parker also discusses the transformative power of connection and the need for resilience amidst life's complexities.

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Sep 5, 2025 • 1h 27min
225: Unabridged Interview: Parker Palmer (Part 2)
Parker Palmer, an 86-year-old Quaker writer and activist, shares his profound insights into living a fulfilling life. He discusses how real vocational clarity often comes later in life, his battles with depression, and the value of embracing life's paradoxes. Through personal anecdotes, he highlights the importance of nature, storytelling, and community in finding joy. Palmer also reflects on the spiritual power of Quaker silence and its role in fostering connection and authenticity.

Sep 1, 2025 • 51min
225: Parker Palmer: Courage, Vocation, and Paradox (Best of NSE)
Parker Palmer, a renowned Quaker writer and activist, shares profound insights from his 86 years of life experience. He discusses how finding true vocation often comes late and the importance of embracing life's paradoxes. Palmer reflects on his battles with depression, highlighting how these struggles deepened his appreciation for life’s small joys. He emphasizes the need for authenticity in community and education, advocating for vulnerable connections and collaborative learning. His journey reveals that courage and resilience can lead to a fulfilling life.

25 snips
Aug 29, 2025 • 59min
224: Unabridged Interview: Anne-Laure Le Cunff
Anne-Laure Le Cunff is a neuroscientist, entrepreneur, and author of *Tiny Experiments: How to Live Freely in a Goal-Obsessed World*. She shares her journey from relentless achievement to embracing a more experimental mindset. The conversation highlights how tiny experiments can redefine success and alleviate overwhelm. Anne-Laure explores neuroscience's role in curiosity and the importance of self-reflection. She encourages listeners to accept intentional imperfection as a path to personal growth, showcasing the transformative power of adapting goals.

Aug 25, 2025 • 52min
224: Anne-Laure Le Cunff: The Peril of Productivity, and the Happiness of Tiny Experiments
Join neuroscientist and entrepreneur Anne-Laure Le Cunff as she shares her insights on redefining success through curiosity and experimentation. After a life-threatening health scare, she emphasizes adopting an experimental mindset over rigid goals. Explore the importance of understanding procrastination as a communication tool, overcoming perfectionism, and embracing mistakes as growth opportunities. Anne-Laure introduces 'tiny experiments,' a practical way to align personal values with goals, fostering a journey of self-improvement and discovery.

11 snips
Aug 22, 2025 • 1h 10min
223: Unabridged Interview: Baratunde Thurston
Baratunde Thurston, an Emmy-nominated writer and host, dives into the human experience in the age of AI. He discusses the intricate relationship between technology and humanity, emphasizing storytelling as a bridge to interdependence. Baratunde reflects on his journey through satire and how it shapes social commentary, while examining the impact of AI on our identities and creativity. The conversation also highlights the need for community engagement and reassessing power dynamics in technology, urging listeners to explore meaningful connections in this evolving landscape.

20 snips
Aug 18, 2025 • 52min
223: Baratunde Thurston: Being Human in the Age of AI
Baratunde Thurston, a comedian and Emmy-nominated host of Life With Machines, dives deep into what it means to be human in the age of AI. He discusses how technology shapes our identities and challenges our narratives. Thurston emphasizes the importance of interdependence with nature and one another in the digital age. He explores the need for democratizing technology, advocating for community engagement to influence AI governance. Ultimately, he encourages us to harness AI for collective good, ensuring it reflects our shared values.

70 snips
Aug 15, 2025 • 1h 9min
222: Unabridged Interview: Dan Heath
Dan Heath, bestselling author of 'Reset: How to Change What’s Not Working,' shares practical insights into personal and professional transformation. He highlights strategies for adapting to change, emphasizing the importance of intentionality in relationships and aligning actions with goals. A standout story from his drive-thru experience offers lessons in operational efficiency. He discusses finding fulfillment in work, and the power of positive environments in fostering personal growth, all while critiquing the pitfalls of conventional business practices.

23 snips
Aug 11, 2025 • 52min
222: Dan Heath: How to Change What’s Not Working
Dan Heath, bestselling author and host of What It's Like To Be, shares insights from his book on transforming what's not working in life and work. He discusses how real change emerges from discarding outdated methods and offers strategies for enhancing operational efficiency. Heath emphasizes the importance of identifying leverage points for significant change and the emotional connections that drive motivation. Through engaging stories, he reveals how intentionality can foster deeper relationships and facilitate meaningful improvements.


