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Peter Lohmann
Peter Lohmann hosts interview-style discussions on the business of property management.
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Jul 20, 2022 • 1h 52min
Special - Peter on The Profitable Property Management Podcast
Peter on The Profitable Property Management Podcast hosted by Jordan Muela
Engineering & Optimizing Property Management w/ Peter Lohmann
In this episode we discuss:
From engineer to entrepreneur, Peter applies his systems and processes thinking to his property management business.
What Peter loves about starting and growing a business? He says you're constantly at the limit of your capabilities.
"Every time you add a few hundred doors, everything breaks – and you have to rework your processes and redistribute workload among employees." - Peter Lohmann
Learn more about Jordan Muela & how to connect with him here:
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RL Property Management

Jul 15, 2022 • 58min
Special - How I Took 5 Weeks Away From My Business
Season 2, Bonus Episode of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann & special guest Andy VandenBerg. In this episode we discuss:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:45) - Why Andy wanted to interview Peter
(03:39) - Peter’s relationship with his business partner & hiring a COO
(05:11) - How did the idea for this time off come about and what did you need to do in order to pull it off?
(09:19) - Was there any form of contact during these 5 weeks?
(11:49) - What was the number one thing that needed to be in place for this to happen?
(14:41) - How do you think about putting processes in place that require your judgment?
(19:00) - Do you think it’s relevant for someone other than the owner to take a break like this?
(21:13) - Second Nature Ad
(22:52) - What would you change the next time you take a break like this?
(25:49) - Do you feel like your business was able to thrive while you were gone, or just survive?
(28:03) - How did your employees react when you told them you were taking this break?
(29:51) - Accepting that there would be problems going in & having trust in your team
(33:03) - Andy’s experience with 14 mandatory days off
(34:46) - What was the high level itinerary for the 5 weeks off and what did you hope to achieve?
(40:18) - Did your relationship change with your family during that month?
(40:53) - How would you balance solo time vs. family time if you were to bucket out your time off going forward?
(41:56) - Did you come back to work with a new vision for your relationship with your business?
(48:16) - Thoughts on email and slack batch working
(50:41) - How are you thinking about bucketing out your next time off?
(51:43) - What did your OOO say and did you get any funny responses?
(54:22) - Wrap up & final thoughts
Learn more about Andy VandenBerg & how to connect with him here:
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AndyVandenber.com
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RL Property Management

Jul 13, 2022 • 1h 6min
Lisa Wise - Putting People & Place Above Profit
Season 2, Episode 6 of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann & special guest Lisa Wise. In this episode we discuss:
(0:00) - Intro
(01:52) - Lisa’s background & career
(03:34) - Launching Birdwatch as property management for homeowners
(08:44) - What’s your pricing model for a homeowner?
(11:47) - Why did you move into a new market with a new product before your traditional management services?
(15:47) - What’s working for you in marketing?
(20:42) - Second Nature Ad
(22:36) - Lisa’s approach to branding
(28:45) - How would you advise smaller-budget PM companies to brand the way you have?
(32:38) - Do you feel out of place in the industry due to your unique approach?
(39:25) - Lisa’s employee-owned management company
(46:05) - The Found Gen Ad
(47:44) - Are there dividends or profit sharing with Roost?
(49:22) - How are each of your 5 companies run?
(54:15) - How does your division of labor look between the CEO and President?
(01:00:16) - What marketing advice do you have for smaller PM companies
Learn more about Lisa Wise & how to connect with her here:
MeetLisaWise.com
BirdWatch
Roost DC
Nest DC
Starling DC
birdSEED
Lisa on LinkedIn
Lisa Wise & Grace Langham at PM Grow Summit 2021
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RL Property Management

Jul 6, 2022 • 1h 15min
Brandon Laughridge - Managing and Investing In Multifamily
Season 2, Episode 5 of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann & special guest Brandon Laughridge. In this episode we discuss:
(00:00) - Intro
(02:15) - Brandon’s background & Career in Property Management
(08:36) - Setting the stage for the non-traditional turn in Brandon’s career
(17:22) - How does your business look today and how involved are you in the day-to-day?
(19:55) - Brandon’s famous Tweet: Purchasing a business with an SBA loan
(24:53) - Ad: Second Nature
(26:47) - Tuck-in acquisitions
(28:54) - “What you pay for Property Management doesn’t matter, it’s what you get that matters.”
(36:54) - How do you think about operating your PM businesses at a loss to serve your own investments?
(40:31) - What are your plans for the 3rd party side of the business?
(42:52) - How do you view your involvement in the day-to-day operations?
(52:49) - Ad: Appfolio
(54:17) - What advice would you give to Property Managers on Syndication?
(01:02:34) - Brandon’s involvement with SMBash
(01:10:37) - What marketing advice would you give to a smaller Property Management owner?
(01:14:150 - How can people keep in touch with you online?
Learn more about Brandon Laughridge & how to connect with him here:
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Brandon’s website
Northterrace.com
Brandon@northterrace.com
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RL Property Management
Mentioned in this episode:
Tony Layne on TLAO
SMBash 2023 in Austin, TX
Acquisitions Anonymous Podcast

Jun 29, 2022 • 1h 17min
Jeremy Pound - Niche Down to Scale Up
Season 2, Episode 4 of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann & special guest Jeremy Pound. In this episode we discuss:
(00:00) Intro
(01:20) Jeremy’s background and career
(05:26) The importance of narrowing your focus and the Market-Focus Paradox
(10:39) The Woodchip analogy for sales
(18:49) Immersing yourself in the industry and community of your customer
(27:00) How do you view sales in property management relative to other industries?
(31:09) How do you educate customers about the product during the sales process?
(38:35) The Homeless Guy analogy
(44:38) What’s your advice to folks considering hiring salespeople?
(58:44) How can outbound sales be done effectively in Property Management?
(01:14:49) What’s next for Rent Scale and where can people learn more?
Learn more about Jeremy Pound & how to connect with him here:
Facebook & Twitter
RentScale
RentScale on Facebook
LeadSimple
Learn more about Peter Lohmann & how to connect with him here:
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RL Property Management
Mentioned in this episode:
Entrepreneur’s Organization
The Waterfall Exercise

Jun 22, 2022 • 1h 8min
Matthew Whitaker - Growing to 7,000 Doors
Season 2, Episode 3 of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann & special guest Matthew Whitaker. In this episode we discuss:
(00:00) Intro
(01:35) Matthew’s background and career
(03:53) Taking a Property Management company to multiple locations
(09:26) How important are your systems and processes in enabling management across multiple markets?
(13:49) How would you approach process issues coming from one of your offices?
(16:53) Matthew’s journey of becoming an effective manager of managers
(24:27) How do you keep churn to a minimum?
(33:50) How do you balance making property owners of new acquisitions feel comfortable when you first bring them in and sticking to Evernest Processes?
(39:37) Thoughts on Resident Benefit Packages
(46:40) What would be your suggestions for an owner of a Property Management company to maximize their exit price?
(52:20) Why did your org decide that a podcast was a beneficial course of action?
(01:00:24) Evernest’s new North Star
(01:02:43) What marketing advice would you give to a small business looking to grow?
(01:06:48) How can people get in touch with you?
Learn more about Matthew Whitaker & how to connect with him here:
Evernest
Matthew on LinkedIn
300 to 3,000 Podcast
Podcast@evernest.co
Learn more about Peter Lohmann & how to connect with him here:
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RL Property Management
Mentioned in this episode:
DialPad
Geno Wickman

Jun 15, 2022 • 1h 21min
Jordan Muela - Owning The Outcome
Season 2, Episode 2 of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann & special guest Jordan Muela. In this episode we discuss:
(00:00) Intro
(01:24) Jordan’s background & career
(03:15) What is it about Property Management that drew you into the industry?
(06:49) How does one coming from VC get so passionate about SMB?
(10:23) Is there a place for VC in Property Management?
(15:36) Moving closer to the customer and owning outcomes
(24:33) Thoughts on Fees & Customer Surplus
(33:46) Jordan’s Benchmarking Study
(37:43) LeadSimple
(47:10) Being able to adjust your level of involvement in your Property Management business
(52:56) What is the level of centralization in your business due to your own involvement? How do you set salaries with owners who have varying levels of involvement?
(58:55) When you’re evaluating opportunities, what are you looking for to determine the best use
(01:06:03) What’s the best way for a Small Business Owner to grow and market their business?
(01:18:03) Final Thought
Learn more about Jordan Muela & how to connect with him here:
LeadSimple
ProfitCoach
The Profitable Property Management Podcast
Jordan@LeadSimple.com
Learn more about Peter Lohmann & how to connect with him here:
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RL Property Management
Mentioned in this episode:
Growth Metrics for Property Management Entrepreneurs
Your Leads are Not Your Growth Strategy

Jun 8, 2022 • 1h 9min
Moses Kagan - Building Adaptive Realty's Property Management Business
Season 2, Episode 1 of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann & special guest Moses Kagan. In this episode we discuss:
(00:00) Intro
(01:02) - Moses’ background in RE
(02:21) - The value of working with large 3rd party clients for property management & how Moses built his portfolio
(09:07) - The 3rd party management tax
(14:58) - Moses’ unique investing value-add approach
(22:04) - Compensating Leasing Agents
(32:58) - What would be your advice be to small property managers who want to take more ownership over the buildings they manage?
(37:09) - Moses’ sense of duty to family legacy
(46:20) - “Wealth is downstream of values”
(53:58) - The differences between a 3rd party property management & a Real Estate Private Equity company & Moses’ involvement in each aspect within Adaptive
(1:03:36) - How does someone market a smaller Real Estate business in 2022?
Learn more about Moses Kagan & how to connect with here:
Moses on Twitter
Moses’ Mailing List
Adaptive Realty
Learn more about Peter Lohmann & how to connect with him here:
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RL Property Management
Mentioned in this episode:
ShowMojo
Principles of Real Estate Syndication by Sam Freshman
Investing in Real Estate Private Equity by Sean Cook
Multi-family Millions by Dave Lindahl
Permission Marketing by Set Godin

Dec 9, 2021 • 22min
Episode 20 - Bonus Episode with Q&A Part 2
Episode 20 of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann. In this episode we discuss:
(00:00) Intro
(01:09) How long did it take you to set up your processes & what was the worst thing that happened when you did not already have a process in place when trying to deal with an issue? Who is tougher the landlord or the tenants?
(07:25) How has the idea of adding value to every interaction changed your business?
(11:39) Where if at all do you see tech improving the status quo?
(15:30) Are any of the VC-Backed competitors getting any traction in Columbus and bonus question; What's your favorite Jeni's Ice Cream flavor?
Top VC-Backed Companies Blog: https://www.peterlohmann.com/blog/vc-backed-property-management-companies
(20:49) Conclusion
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Learn more about Peter & how to connect with him here: peterlohmann.com
Top VC-Backed Companies Blog: https://www.peterlohmann.com/blog/vc-backed-property-management-companies
RL Property Management manages Columbus area rental properties: rlpmg.com

Nov 17, 2021 • 27min
Episode 19 - Bonus Episode with Q&A
Episode 19 of the Owner Occupied podcast with Peter Lohmann. In this episode we discuss:
(00:00) Intro
(02:38) What processes agreements client betting etc. have allowed him to increase the stickiness of revenue per door of his customer base.
(06:47) How does a property management business increase the multiples on its earnings?
(12:12) Can you describe your greatest challenges facing on working with tenants and what you have done to mitigate the likelihood of frequency of these occurrences.
(16:25) How do you think about tenant services & how do you prioritize tenant requests?
(19:59) Do you ever feel that your incentives are misaligned with clients?
(25:42) Conclusion
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Learn more about Peter & how to connect with him here: peterlohmann.com
RL Property Management manages Columbus area rental properties: rlpmg.com