

Tomorrow's Bites with Andrés and Sjacco
Andrés and Sjacco
Food is a problem, and this podcast is full of solutions.
Every two weeks, Andrés and Sjacco sit down with the founders, farmers, investors, chefs, and other rebels who are reshaping the way food is grown, made, financed, and shared.
From farmers building resilient, regenerative food systems to founders creating sustainable, healthy food products, and from impact investing to scaling agrifood companies, these are the stories, lessons, and strategies.
If you’re building in agrifood, dreaming of something better, or hungry to understand the future of food, this podcast is for you.
Every two weeks, Andrés and Sjacco sit down with the founders, farmers, investors, chefs, and other rebels who are reshaping the way food is grown, made, financed, and shared.
From farmers building resilient, regenerative food systems to founders creating sustainable, healthy food products, and from impact investing to scaling agrifood companies, these are the stories, lessons, and strategies.
If you’re building in agrifood, dreaming of something better, or hungry to understand the future of food, this podcast is for you.
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Oct 30, 2024 • 1h 8min
Most Food Companies Make This ONE Mistake About Their Food Safety - with Ex-EFSA Researcher, Prof. Dr. Hans Verhangen #60
Imagine reaching for a snack labeled as “boosting immunity” or “supporting heart health,” only to find out there’s little scientific evidence to back those claims. In this episode, Dr. Hans Verhagen, a toxicologist and nutritionist, sheds light on the rigorous yet often overlooked process behind health claims in the food industry. With a background in chemistry and expertise in food toxicology, Dr. Verhagen shares his journey and the challenges of merging toxicology and nutrition in public health.
He breaks down the lengthy EU regulatory process for novel foods and the importance of starting safety considerations early. Dr. Verhagen also critiques systems like Nutri-Score, which, he argues, lack substantial scientific backing. This conversation dives deep into the role of thorough scientific evidence, human studies, and regulation in ensuring safe, effective food products, while addressing emerging challenges in food safety and public trust.
We discussed:
- Introduction and Background
- Challenges in Food Safety and Public Health
- The Lengthy Regulatory Process for Novel Foods
- Key Factors for Making Health and Nutrition Claims
- Recommendations for Companies
- Evaluating Health Claims in the Food Industry
- The Critique of the Nutri-Score System
- Regulation for Food Supplements
- The Role of Policy and Regulation
- Risk Benefit Assessment
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😊 The Guest: Hans Verhangen
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Oct 24, 2024 • 9min
Short 46: Transparency in Alcohol: Should We Know What's Really in Our Drinks? - with Alcohol Industry Expert, Johan Flaskamp
What’s driving the shift in alcohol consumption? Johan explains how consumers are opting for quality over quantity, with cocktails replacing beer-heavy nights as people become more health-conscious. He also touches on the growing demand for transparency in the alcohol industry, discussing the challenges of listing ingredients while protecting trade secrets, especially for small distillers.
In 9 min, we explore how the future of alcohol is being shaped by consumer preferences for moderation, quality, and transparency.
Listen to the full episode with Johan here.
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Oct 23, 2024 • 1h 1min
Soil Health, Biodiversity, First Days of Climate Farmers & Building that Regenerative Farming Movement with Philippe Birker Founder Climate Farmers #59
In a world where industrial agriculture dominates, what if the key to solving climate change lies in something as simple as how we farm? Philippe shares a striking insight: healthy soil, often dismissed as mere dirt, could be our greatest ally in battling floods, droughts, and even malnutrition.
This episode dives into Philippe’s journey, from feeling disconnected from nature to becoming a leader in regenerative farming.
Philippe, co-founder of Climate Farmers, explains how regenerative agriculture goes beyond sustainability—it's about farming in harmony with nature's principles. By nurturing soil health, boosting biodiversity, and improving water retention, regenerative farms not only produce more nutrient-dense food but can even be more profitable than conventional methods.
We discussed:
Philippe's Journey & Connection with Nature
Understanding Regenerative Farming
The Importance of Healthy Soils
The Future of Greenhouses & Supermarkets
Challenges & Solutions for Farmers
Misconceptions about Regenerative Farming
Supporting Farmers in Transitioning to Regenerative Agriculture
The Journey of creating Climate Farmers
Building a Movement & Farmers
Influencing EU Agricultural Policy for Regenerative Practices
Towards a Regenerative Agriculture Verification System & Transparency
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😊 The Guest: Philippe Birker
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Oct 16, 2024 • 9min
Short 45: What Is The Role of Animals in The Food System? - with Kipster founder, Ruud Zanders
Can animals play a sustainable role in feeding the world? Ruud from Kipster shares his journey from conventional farming to pioneering a new model where animals are fed only "rest products"—food waste that humans cannot consume. He explains how inefficiencies in the traditional system are driving environmental costs and how Kipster aims to shift the industry by relying on waste streams rather than good grains.
In just 9 min, we explore how this approach can change farming for the better and why it’s the future we need.
Listen to the full episode with Ruud here.
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Oct 16, 2024 • 1h 13min
The Future of Craft Chocolate: The Hidden Challenges, Scaling Up, EU Laws, and the Power of Bean-to-Bar with Craft-Chocolate Maker, Nick Davis #58
You probably know good chocolate, but have you ever tried the authentic one?
In this episode, Nick Davis, a passionate craft chocolate maker, shares his journey from journalism to creating high-quality, ethically sourced chocolate with his own company, One One Cacao. Raised in a religious home, Nick's values of doing right and making a positive impact shaped his approach to chocolate making. He emphasizes the importance of the beans, the fermentation process, and building relationships with small farmers to ensure sustainability and quality.
Nick discusses the challenges facing the craft chocolate industry, from scaling up production to competing with larger companies and navigating new EU deforestation laws. Despite these hurdles, he sees growth potential, especially in exploring new flavors and reaching untapped markets. The conversation also touches on the importance of valuing all parts of the food system to build a more sustainable future, concluding with Nick's hopes for the industry's future and the role of tourism in supporting craft chocolate makers.
We discussed:
Inspiration from Grenada Chocolate Company
Balancing Authenticity and Consumer Preferences
The Importance of Beans in Chocolate Making
Building Trust with Farmers and Challenges in the Industry
The Future of Craft Chocolate
Challenges and Opportunities in the Craft Chocolate Industry
The Importance of Ethically Sourced Chocolate
Scaling Up Production and Reaching New Markets
The Impact of New Deforestation Laws in the EU
Distribution Challenges in the Craft Chocolate Industry
The Role of Tourism in Supporting Craft Chocolate Makers
Proud Moments in the Chocolate-Making Journey
The Future of One One Coco
Addressing Food Waste in the Food System
and much more..
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😊 The Guest: Nick Davis
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Oct 10, 2024 • 6min
Short 44: This Could Be The End Of Chocolate... - with Cocoa Sustainability and Supply Chain Expert, Jack Steijn
Can you imagine a world without chocolate?
The world is running out of coca. There is a growing deficit of over 100,000 tons, driven by aging trees, diseases, and the impact of climate change.
In this short, Jack Steijn explains how the imbalance between production and consumption is leading to record-high prices, yet many farmers are not benefiting due to unfair trade practices. Jack discusses potential solutions, including agroforestry, better research, and policy changes, to help farmers adapt to shifting weather patterns and pests.
In just 6 min, we uncover the real story behind the cocoa crisis and what can be done to save the industry.
Listen to Jack's full episode here.
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Oct 9, 2024 • 1h 1min
Zero-Waste Cooking, Michelin Lessons & Food Waste Solutions - Zero-Waste Chef Vojtech #57
It is estimated that 26.5 million tons of food are lost to waste in kitchens every year. That needs to be changed.
In this episode, Vojtech shares his journey in promoting sustainability in the kitchen. He challenges traditional views on food by breaking the divide between ‘main products’ and ‘byproducts,’ revealing the culinary potential in items often discarded, like carrot tops and leek greens.
Learn how to become a zero-waste chef in profession and in your own kitchen.
We discussed:
The background of Vojtech
Discovering the Culinary World and Food Waste
His lessons from Michelin Restaurants.
Confronting Chefs with Food Waste Solutions.
How creativity and innovation can be applied to using food byproducts and reducing waste.
Cultural Differences in Approaching Food.
How to change the Way We Think About Food.
The future of home cooking and the food industry relies on a shift in mindset towards reducing waste.
and much more..
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😊 The Guest: Vojtech Vegh
Look into the company Surplus Food Studio
Sponsor: The Future Of Protein Production (20% off use code 'TMMB20'):

Oct 3, 2024 • 10min
Short 43: Feeding Uganda Sustainably: The Dilemma of Growth vs. Environment - with founder of Island of Hope Uganda, Jonan Asingwire
What are the biggest challenges in Uganda’s food system? Jonan Asingwire breaks down the key issues, from the short food chain in rural areas to the structured yet wasteful system in cities like Kampala. With no efficient food preservation infrastructure, the country faces high levels of food waste. Jonan also discusses the dilemma of increasing food production to tackle hunger while balancing environmental sustainability. He emphasizes the need to build capacity, connect academia with policy, and empower young people to become catalysts of change.
In just 10 min, we explore Jonan’s vision for a more sustainable and resilient food system in Uganda.
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Oct 1, 2024 • 54min
Serial Entrepreneur Victor Penev: How Food Impacts Longevity, Mentorship, Finding Product Market Fit, and the Challenges of Startup Success #56
Victor Penev, co-founder and CEO of Edamam, discusses the importance of food and longevity. He shares his mission to increase the average lifespan of Bulgarians to over 90 years and his belief that everyone should live a long, meaningful life. Victor talks about his diverse interests and how he became passionate about food. He also discusses his experience as a serial entrepreneur and the challenges of finding product-market fit. Victor explains how Edamam organizes food data to help people make informed and personalized food choices. He emphasizes the individuality of dietary needs and the importance of sticking to the mission while being adaptable. In this conversation, Victor Penev discusses the challenges of building Edamam and the importance of finding product-market fit. He also shares his philosophy on fundraising and the role of passion and patience in being a successful founder. Victor emphasizes the significance of food in longevity and the need for a more efficient food system. He provides insights on mentoring and finding a mentor, as well as the importance of defining what makes life meaningful.
In this conversation we will talk about:
Victor's Mission for Longevity
Victor's Personal Journey and Passion for Helping Others
Food Culture in Different Countries
Victor's Experience as Co-founder of Bulgaria's Largest Internet Company
Finding Product-Market Fit
Strategies and Lessons for Finding Product-Market Fit
The Role of Edamam's Database in Making Better Decisions
Personalized Strategies for Longevity Through Food
Building Edamam and Challenges
Exploring Longevity
The Role of Food in Longevity
The Food System and Resource Efficiency
Mentoring Startups in the Food Tech Industry
Finding a Mentor
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😊 The Guest: Victor Penev
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Sep 26, 2024 • 9min
Short 42: From Global to Communities: How We Can Revalue Food - with Regenerative Farmer and Chef Andrés Jara
How can regenerative agriculture reshape the food system for a more sustainable future?
Andrés Jara explains why long-term thinking is crucial when investing in nature and highlights the need for the food industry to adapt to the slower processes of nature, rather than expecting fast returns. We discuss how local farming and community-based agriculture can provide solutions to global challenges, contrasting the values of individualism in Europe with the community focus seen in South America. Andrés also emphasizes how commodifying food has devalued the work of farmers and urges for a shift toward fairer, community-driven food systems.
In just 9 min, we explore Andrés Jara's insights into building a more resilient and sustainable food industry.
You can listen to the full episode with Andrés here
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