

The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox
The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time. New episodes drop every Monday. From the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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Sep 8, 2022 • 48min
40 Acres: $14 trillion and no mules
William “Sandy” Darity and Kirsten Mullen, a husband-and-wife team and authors specializing in reparations, delve into the urgent conversation surrounding reparations for Black Americans. They explore a comprehensive framework that includes acknowledgment of injustices, practical funding strategies for the proposed $14 trillion support, and eligibility criteria based on descent from enslaved ancestors. The discussion challenges smaller local initiatives, advocating for a national program to address systemic inequalities and the long-standing legacy of slavery.

Sep 1, 2022 • 53min
40 Acres: The original promise
Nkechi Taifa, founder of the Reparation Education Project, dives into the historical and contemporary fight for reparations in America. She explores the unfulfilled promise of "40 acres and a mule" and discusses how activism for reparations has evolved from the shadows to the spotlight, especially since the 2020 election. The conversation highlights key historical figures, ongoing disparities, and the urgent need for institutional accountability in addressing centuries of racial injustice.

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Aug 29, 2022 • 1h 3min
What Clarence Thomas really thinks
Corey Robin, a political science professor and author of 'The Enigma of Clarence Thomas,' delves into the complexities of the Supreme Court Justice's life and ideology. He discusses Thomas's shift from black nationalism to conservatism, revealing how historical movements shaped his views on race and progress. The conversation uncovers Thomas's judicial philosophy, his role in pivotal decisions, and the intersections of his personal beliefs with contemporary Republican ideology, providing a nuanced portrait of a controversial figure.

Aug 25, 2022 • 47min
Even Better: Don't call it a budget
Paco de Leon, a skilled financial planner and the mind behind "Finance for the People," shares insights into the emotional and systemic challenges of personal finance. He discusses how generational beliefs shape our views on wealth and provides practical steps to confront financial fears. The conversation highlights issues of racism and classism in financial systems, the struggles of balancing rent with student loans, and the importance of starting small with savings and investment. De Leon's approach empowers listeners to take control of their financial futures.

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Aug 22, 2022 • 50min
The quest for authenticity
In this engaging conversation, philosopher Skye Cleary, author of "How to Be Authentic," explores the nuances of authenticity through the ideas of Simone de Beauvoir. She discusses how authenticity is an ongoing journey of self-creation, rather than a static identity. Skye highlights the tension between societal expectations and personal freedom, particularly in love and relationships. She also delves into the evolution of gender roles and the importance of emotional freedom, making a case for egalitarian partnerships that nurture individuality.

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Aug 18, 2022 • 45min
Even Better: Setting your boundaries
Explore the art of setting personal boundaries with insights from a licensed therapist. Discover how to navigate relationships post-pandemic and communicate comfort levels effectively. The conversation sheds light on the emotional complexities around ghosting and the grief involved in setting boundaries. Learn practical strategies for maintaining boundaries amidst challenges, and rethink how to view boundary-setting as a constructive dialogue. These discussions aim to enhance connections and foster healthier interactions.

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Aug 15, 2022 • 53min
Your gut instinct is usually wrong
Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, a former Google data scientist and author, challenges our reliance on gut instincts in decision-making. He discusses how data provides clearer insights into areas like online dating and parenting, arguing that intuition often leads us astray. The conversation highlights the paradox of happiness, the limitations of self-reported metrics, and how genetics may play a lesser role in child development than community support. Seth emphasizes using data to navigate choices and enhance life satisfaction.

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Aug 11, 2022 • 53min
Even Better: Workplace equality 2.0
Minda Harts, author and CEO of The Memo, is dedicated to empowering women of color in the workplace. She discusses the shortcomings of traditional feminism and emphasizes the need for a more inclusive approach. Minda shares insights on overcoming obstacles in predominantly white environments and the significance of reclaiming one's voice. The conversation highlights the importance of mentorship, self-advocacy, and establishing an equitable workplace, urging everyone to engage actively in fostering dignity and respect at work.

Aug 8, 2022 • 57min
Why we're still postmodern (whatever that means)
In this engaging discussion, Stuart Jeffries, a journalist and author known for his insights on culture and politics, tackles the elusive nature of postmodernism. He argues that postmodernism remains influential, interwoven with neoliberal ideologies that foster individualism and consumerism. Their conversation navigates the chaos of contemporary culture, from reality TV to political speeches, and critiques how entertainment often serves capitalist structures. Jeffries offers a thought-provoking take on how we can seek deeper meaning in a world overwhelmed by choices.

Aug 4, 2022 • 49min
Even Better: Activism when you don't know where to start
Brea Baker, an activist and writer, brings her powerful insights on progressive causes, stemming from her impactful student activism at Yale and her role in the Women's March. In their conversation, she discusses the concept of radical love as a driving force in activism, the importance of overcoming despair, and strategies for meaningful community engagement. Brea also reflects on her personal journey into activism and the need to acknowledge privilege while inviting diverse voices into the conversation, fostering hope for a better future.


