

The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox
The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time. New episodes drop every Monday. From the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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Aug 18, 2022 • 45min
Even Better: Setting your boundaries
Explore the art of setting personal boundaries with insights from a licensed therapist. Discover how to navigate relationships post-pandemic and communicate comfort levels effectively. The conversation sheds light on the emotional complexities around ghosting and the grief involved in setting boundaries. Learn practical strategies for maintaining boundaries amidst challenges, and rethink how to view boundary-setting as a constructive dialogue. These discussions aim to enhance connections and foster healthier interactions.

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Aug 15, 2022 • 53min
Your gut instinct is usually wrong
Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, a former Google data scientist and author, challenges our reliance on gut instincts in decision-making. He discusses how data provides clearer insights into areas like online dating and parenting, arguing that intuition often leads us astray. The conversation highlights the paradox of happiness, the limitations of self-reported metrics, and how genetics may play a lesser role in child development than community support. Seth emphasizes using data to navigate choices and enhance life satisfaction.

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Aug 11, 2022 • 53min
Even Better: Workplace equality 2.0
Minda Harts, author and CEO of The Memo, is dedicated to empowering women of color in the workplace. She discusses the shortcomings of traditional feminism and emphasizes the need for a more inclusive approach. Minda shares insights on overcoming obstacles in predominantly white environments and the significance of reclaiming one's voice. The conversation highlights the importance of mentorship, self-advocacy, and establishing an equitable workplace, urging everyone to engage actively in fostering dignity and respect at work.

Aug 8, 2022 • 57min
Why we're still postmodern (whatever that means)
In this engaging discussion, Stuart Jeffries, a journalist and author known for his insights on culture and politics, tackles the elusive nature of postmodernism. He argues that postmodernism remains influential, interwoven with neoliberal ideologies that foster individualism and consumerism. Their conversation navigates the chaos of contemporary culture, from reality TV to political speeches, and critiques how entertainment often serves capitalist structures. Jeffries offers a thought-provoking take on how we can seek deeper meaning in a world overwhelmed by choices.

Aug 4, 2022 • 49min
Even Better: Activism when you don't know where to start
Brea Baker, an activist and writer, brings her powerful insights on progressive causes, stemming from her impactful student activism at Yale and her role in the Women's March. In their conversation, she discusses the concept of radical love as a driving force in activism, the importance of overcoming despair, and strategies for meaningful community engagement. Brea also reflects on her personal journey into activism and the need to acknowledge privilege while inviting diverse voices into the conversation, fostering hope for a better future.

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Aug 1, 2022 • 1h 4min
The Supreme Court's power grab
Nikolas Bowie, a Harvard Law professor specializing in constitutional law, dives into the U.S. Supreme Court's recent controversial term. He candidly analyzes landmark rulings limiting EPA powers, expanding gun rights, and overturning Roe v. Wade. Bowie questions the radical structure of the court's arguments and explores the fate of legal liberalism in this new judicial landscape. The conversation also tackles potential reforms to curb the conservative majority's influence on American law, highlighting the urgency for democratic mobilization and grassroots efforts.

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Jul 28, 2022 • 1h 4min
How middlemen took over the economy
Kathryn Judge, Harvey J. Goldschmid Professor of Law at Columbia University and author of "Direct: The Rise of the Middleman Economy," dives into the pervasive influence of middlemen like Amazon and Walmart. She discusses their dual roles in efficiency and economic fragility and critiques the moral dilemmas consumers face in supporting these intermediaries. Judge advocates for a shift toward direct purchasing to foster ethical buying habits and restore balance in the economy, urging consumers to consider the real costs of their choices.

Jul 25, 2022 • 54min
The necessity — and danger — of free speech
In this engaging conversation, Margaret Sullivan, a media columnist for The Washington Post and author of 'Ghosting the News', dives into the complex relationship between free speech and democracy. She and Sean Illing discuss how unregulated discourse can endanger societal harmony. The challenges of misinformation and media's dual role as both an empowering force and a tool for manipulation are explored. Sullivan also highlights the evolving landscape of journalism and the urgent need for media literacy to support democratic values.

Jul 21, 2022 • 53min
Hacking coral sex to save the reefs
In this discussion, marine biologist Hanna Koch, a postdoctoral research fellow at Mote Marine Laboratory's Coral Reef Restoration Program, shares her groundbreaking work in repopulating coral reefs. She explains the unique reproductive behaviors of corals and how innovative restoration techniques, like strategic breeding, aim to enhance resilience against climate change. Hanna emphasizes the critical role of coral reefs in supporting marine biodiversity and human communities, urging immediate action to combat their alarming decline.

Jul 18, 2022 • 51min
The price of keeping secrets
In this intriguing talk, Michael Slepian, a Columbia Business School professor and author of 'The Secret Life of Secrets', delves into the psychology of secret-keeping. He explores why we conceal certain truths and the emotional toll it takes, including feelings of shame and isolation. The conversation highlights how secrecy can impact trust and relationships, the delicate balance between privacy and betrayal, and the liberating nature of sharing hidden truths. Slepian also emphasizes the importance of choosing the right confidant to foster deeper connections.


