

The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox
The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time. New episodes drop every Monday. From the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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Mar 3, 2025 • 43min
How to change your personality
Olga Khazan, a staff writer at The Atlantic and author of "Me, But Better," dives into the fascinating realm of personality change. She shares insights from her journey exploring whether personality traits are fixed or can be transformed. The discussion unveils the intricate balance between genetics and life experiences, emphasizing mindfulness and self-awareness as keys to personal growth. Khazan also challenges the notion of inherent traits by revealing how intentional changes can lead to meaningful transformations.

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Feb 17, 2025 • 38min
Is ignorance truly bliss?
Mark Lilla, a Professor of Humanities at Columbia University and author of "Ignorance and Bliss: On Wanting Not to Know," dives into the tug-of-war between knowledge and ignorance. He discusses when ignorance might serve us better, referencing Plato's allegory of the cave. Lilla explores how the comfort of not knowing can sometimes shield us from societal pressures and personal anxieties. The conversation reflects on the balance between curiosity and denial, revealing the psychological complexity of wanting both enlightenment and the bliss of ignorance.

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Feb 10, 2025 • 54min
Is America broken?
Alana Newhouse, founder and editor-in-chief of Tablet Magazine, offers keen insights into America’s institutional divides. She introduces the concept of 'Brokenism,' exploring the clash between those wanting to repair institutions versus those pushing for their dismantlement. Newhouse highlights the emotional impact of systemic failures on individuals and critiques the increasing political polarization. The conversation encourages a deeper understanding of historical contexts and challenges everyone to engage constructively in the evolving political landscape.

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Feb 3, 2025 • 45min
The cost of spending time alone
Derek Thompson, a staff writer at The Atlantic and author of "The Antisocial Century," dives into America's current solitude crisis. He argues that many Americans prefer their own company over social interaction, challenging the concept of loneliness. The discussion touches on how a desire-driven culture has eroded deep social ties and civic engagement, leading to political disconnection. They also explore the impact of technology on friendships and the complex relationship between 'me time' and genuine community connection.

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Jan 27, 2025 • 55min
Attention pays (with Chris Hayes)
Chris Hayes, host of All In with Chris Hayes on MSNBC and author of The Siren's Call, dives into the fascinating dynamics of the attention economy. He discusses how our devices are designed to capture our focus, turning attention into a commodity. Hayes draws parallels between ancient myths and modern distractions, addressing the struggle for genuine engagement in journalism. He also highlights the urgent need for regulations to protect young people from corporate exploitation and shares insights on mindful consumption in a digitally distracted world.

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Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 11min
How to be happy
Laurie Santos, a professor of psychology at Yale and host of The Happiness Lab, dives deep into the science of happiness. She discusses the balance of positive and negative emotions, the importance of gratitude, and how acts of kindness boost well-being. The conversation touches on the influence of social ties, job satisfaction, and the dangers of prioritizing future achievements over present joy. Santos emphasizes that happiness is a journey enriched by meaningful connections and personal values, not just a goal to reach.

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Jan 13, 2025 • 50min
The screens between us
Christine Rosen, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and author of "The Extinction of Experience," dives into how technology impacts our daily lives and social skills. She discusses the passive nature of digital interactions and their effects on genuine human experiences. The conversation highlights the importance of face-to-face connections, particularly for children, and critiques the isolating aspects of a mediated reality. Additionally, they explore the challenges technology poses to mental health and the need for deeper human connections.

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Jan 6, 2025 • 50min
The importance of failure
In this engaging conversation, Costica Bradatan, a philosophy professor and author of 'In Praise of Failure', dives into the significance of embracing failure. He shares profound insights on how failures can teach humility, using poignant analogies and historical examples like Gandhi. The discussion explores existential themes, the wisdom gained from confronting our limitations, and the importance of acknowledging mortality. Bradatan argues that embracing failure can pave the way for personal growth and deeper understanding of life's rich tapestry.

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Dec 23, 2024 • 1h 1min
What to do with your sadness, pain, and grief
Mariana Alessandri, a philosophy professor and author of "Night Vision: Seeing Ourselves Through Dark Moods," discusses the complexities of human emotions, arguing for the importance of embracing sadness and grief rather than repressing them. She critiques the self-help narrative that promotes constant happiness and contrasts Stoic and Aristotelian views on grief. Mariana advocates for emotional honesty and the power of presence, encouraging individuals to accept their feelings and foster deeper connections through shared experiences of pain.

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Dec 16, 2024 • 52min
What do animals feel?
In this thought-provoking discussion, Jonathan Birch, a philosopher of science and principal investigator on the Foundations of Animal Sentience Project, tackles the complex questions surrounding what animals feel and the ethical responsibilities we have toward them. He emphasizes the need to consider sentience in a broader range of beings, including octopuses, insects, and even AI. Birch highlights recent UK legislation aimed at protecting marine animals and the profound challenges we face in distinguishing genuine sentience from mere intelligence across species.