
The Gray Area with Sean Illing
The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time. New episodes drop every Monday.
Latest episodes

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Jan 6, 2025 • 50min
The importance of failure
In this engaging conversation, Costica Bradatan, a philosophy professor and author of 'In Praise of Failure', dives into the significance of embracing failure. He shares profound insights on how failures can teach humility, using poignant analogies and historical examples like Gandhi. The discussion explores existential themes, the wisdom gained from confronting our limitations, and the importance of acknowledging mortality. Bradatan argues that embracing failure can pave the way for personal growth and deeper understanding of life's rich tapestry.

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Dec 23, 2024 • 1h 1min
What to do with your sadness, pain, and grief
Mariana Alessandri, a philosophy professor and author of "Night Vision: Seeing Ourselves Through Dark Moods," discusses the complexities of human emotions, arguing for the importance of embracing sadness and grief rather than repressing them. She critiques the self-help narrative that promotes constant happiness and contrasts Stoic and Aristotelian views on grief. Mariana advocates for emotional honesty and the power of presence, encouraging individuals to accept their feelings and foster deeper connections through shared experiences of pain.

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Dec 16, 2024 • 52min
What do animals feel?
In this thought-provoking discussion, Jonathan Birch, a philosopher of science and principal investigator on the Foundations of Animal Sentience Project, tackles the complex questions surrounding what animals feel and the ethical responsibilities we have toward them. He emphasizes the need to consider sentience in a broader range of beings, including octopuses, insects, and even AI. Birch highlights recent UK legislation aimed at protecting marine animals and the profound challenges we face in distinguishing genuine sentience from mere intelligence across species.

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Dec 9, 2024 • 52min
Are men okay?
Scott Galloway, a marketing professor at NYU and host of the "Professor G-Pod," delves into the pressing issues facing modern men. He and host Sean Illing discuss alarming statistics on mental health, education, and employment that show men falling behind. They shine a light on the struggles of young males, the importance of mentorship, and the need to redefine masculinity. Additionally, they emphasize the transformative power of fatherhood and the significance of being present in parenting, urging communities to foster healthier male identities.

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Dec 2, 2024 • 57min
How to feel alive
Simon Critchley, a philosopher from The New School in New York and author of the book *Mysticism*, dives into the essence of feeling truly alive. He discusses the historical significance of mystical experiences that transcend mundane life, urging listeners to explore deeper connections beyond rational thought. Through the lens of ancient rituals, the power of live music, and the quest for fulfillment outside intellectual cynicism, Critchley shares insights on how to embrace life's ecstasy and engage meaningfully with the world.

33 snips
Nov 25, 2024 • 55min
The antidote to climate anxiety
Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, a marine biologist and author of "What If We Get It Right? Visions of Climate Futures," brings her informed optimism about climate change to the conversation. She discusses how doomerism can paralyze action, emphasizing the importance of envisioning a better climate future. Johnson shares insights on local political engagement, sustainable building practices, and the urgency of investing in renewable energy. She also highlights the critical role of individual action and activism in fostering hope and driving meaningful change.

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Nov 18, 2024 • 1h 18min
America’s reactionary moment
Zack Beauchamp, a Vox senior correspondent and author of "The Reactionary Spirit," dives deep into the complexities of America’s reactionary politics. He explores the motivations behind Trump's voter base and how recent political shifts reflect broader societal frustrations. Beauchamp dissects the evolution of conservatism and how modern reactionary movements adapt to democratic environments. He also discusses the potential implications for civil liberties and the challenges facing American democracy in the wake of Trumpism.

9 snips
Nov 11, 2024 • 1h 2min
Well this is awkward
Alexandra Plakias, a philosopher and author of "Awkwardness: A Theory", redefines the notion of awkwardness, asserting that it stems from situations rather than individual traits. She explores how awkward moments can challenge social norms and discusses the discomfort during interactions in our divided world. With charm, she shares relatable experiences and insights on navigating goodbyes and small talk, emphasizing the role of humor in easing tension. The conversation invites listeners to embrace awkwardness as a shared human experience.

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Nov 8, 2024 • 54min
What just happened, and what comes next
In this insightful discussion, Christian Paz, Vox correspondent, analyzes the surprising shift of Latino voters and what it means for the Democratic Party. Ian Millhiser, Supreme Court expert, breaks down the legal challenges Trump faces, particularly the Supreme Court's immunity ruling. Zack Beauchamp provides a critical look at voters' dissatisfaction and the potential fallout from Trump's agenda. Together, they unravel the complex political landscape following the election, addressing the implications for democracy and future leadership.

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Nov 4, 2024 • 57min
Does being "woke" do any good?
Musa al-Gharbi, a journalist and professor at Stony Brook University, tackles the contentious landscape of 'wokeness.' He unpacks its historical roots and how it has evolved into a political weapon. Al-Gharbi discusses the disparity between elite narratives and everyday experiences, questioning if wokeness genuinely drives social change or becomes performative. The conversation reveals the cultural rift between 'woke' and 'anti-woke' camps, emphasizing how both sides prioritize cultural issues while neglecting socio-economic factors.