Product Talk
Products That Count
Produced by Products That Count, a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products, this podcast is an award-winning show by and for product minds, with millions of downloads and a 5-star rating on most major platforms. Each of the 300+ episodes features a product leader interviewing another product leader and exploring what it takes to build great products. Recent ones feature the Chief Product Officers of Brex, Glassdoor, Experian and more.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
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Dec 22, 2025 • 35min
Walmart Sr Product Lead on Transforming Enterprise Portfolio Systems
Sangita Raj, a Senior Product Lead at Walmart with over 15 years of experience, dives into her journey transforming internal portfolio systems into productivity powerhouses. She shares insights on transitioning from engineering to product leadership, with key lessons from T-Mobile, Microsoft, and Amazon. Sangita discusses her innovative work at Walmart in user research, data integration, and driving adoption metrics like a 44% drop in duplicate reporting. Passionate about mentorship, she emphasizes continuous learning and her social impact work tackling period poverty in India.
Dec 19, 2025 • 39min
Google Product Lead on Building AI Products That Actually Work
How do you build an AI product that's powerful, reliable, and grounded in real user needs? In this podcast hosted by Qventus Product Director Mark Bailes, Google Product Lead Alankar Agnihotri discusses what it really takes to build impactful AI and LLM-driven products. He shares the hidden complexities behind model behavior, the shift from deterministic to probabilistic design, and what product managers must do to deliver AI experiences that scale. You'll hear firsthand insights from someone shaping Gemini in Android Automotive and building the future of in-car intelligence.
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Dec 17, 2025 • 51min
Pendo CPO on What the Best CPOs Get Right When Scaling Enterprise Software
Trisha Price, Chief Product Officer at Pendo, brings over 20 years of experience in product development and SaaS. She shares insights on how top CPOs differentiate themselves, emphasizing the need to align product goals with company outcomes. Trisha discusses the benefits of blending product-led growth with sales efforts and highlights the importance of measuring outcomes rather than just project progress. Her take on leveraging AI for faster prototyping and user insights, along with strategies for scaling product teams, makes this a must-listen for aspiring product leaders.
Dec 15, 2025 • 33min
Retool Head of Technical Customer Experience on Enabling Highly Complex Products and Driving Adoption and Expansion.
In this discussion, Chris Harry, the Head of Technical Customer Experience at Retool, shares insights from his 20 years of experience with enterprise clients. He emphasizes the vital partnership between customer-facing and product teams for delivering real impact. Chris highlights the importance of quick wins to build trust, how to respect engineers' autonomy while providing support, and the need for a strong feedback loop. He also stresses involving customer teams early in the development process to enhance credibility and effectiveness.
Dec 12, 2025 • 47min
Outshift by Cisco CPO & VP of Product on Building Breakthroughs Inside a $60B Enterprise
Papi Menon, VP and Chief Product Officer of OutShift by Cisco, leads innovation for one of the world's largest enterprises. He reveals how to unlock breakthroughs like agentic AI and quantum networking within a massive corporation. Papi shares strategies for identifying promising ideas while navigating internal pressures and creating strategic optionality. He discusses the importance of a dedicated go-to-market team and the culture of high-energy incubation, as well as the risks and time horizons when pursuing tech ventures. His vision emphasizes collaboration and governance in shaping the future of enterprises.
Dec 10, 2025 • 43min
Propel VP of Product Marketing on Building Products for High-Stakes Industries
Tom Shoemaker, VP of Product Marketing at Propel, brings his expertise in engineering and product commercialization to the forefront. He discusses how product teams handle high-stakes environments where failure is not an option. Key topics include the challenges OEMs face in time-to-market and quality assurance, and Propel's innovative integration of PLM, QMS, and AI. Tom also shares insights on leveraging win-loss calls for product improvement and offers advice on combining technical skills with business acumen for success.
Dec 9, 2025 • 33min
How to Build an AI Startup on Easy Mode (Moonshot AI's CEO Reveals How)
Aviv Frenkel, Co-founder and CEO of Moonshot AI, shares insights on transforming ecommerce through AI-driven experimentation. He delves into building a no-code platform that autonomously optimizes conversion rates while advocating for a unified tool solution. Aviv highlights the importance of user trust in AI decisions and reveals a case study where a simple design change led to $600K in sales. He also discusses empowering small teams with AI and the significance of a customer-centric approach in startup success.
Dec 8, 2025 • 44min
GoodRx Fmr VP of Product on Leading and Thriving as a Product Leader in the Age of AI
Sandy Huang, a seasoned product leader with over 20 years of experience, including roles at Amazon and GoodRx, shares her insights on thriving in the AI era. She emphasizes the importance of 'people sense'—understanding customers and influencing teams. Sandy discusses time-boxed discovery to enhance delivery speed and execution strategies like ownership and accountability. She highlights the value of non-technical PMs in leveraging logic and customer focus, and predicts that sound judgment will become a critical trait for product leaders as AI evolves.
Dec 5, 2025 • 42min
Tenable VP of Product on Building Secure B2B SaaS Products
Matthew Frank, Vice President of Product and Program Management at Tenable, is on a mission to outsmart adversaries while developing secure B2B SaaS products. He discusses the evolution of exposure management and reveals why identity is becoming the new perimeter in cybersecurity. Matthew dives into the transformative role of AI, highlighting its dual impact on security strategies and threats. His insights shed light on the complexities of building products designed to withstand intelligent attacks.
Dec 2, 2025 • 46min
Elysian Aircraft Co-Founder on Decarbonizing Aviation with EV Batteries
How do you build products that can keep pace with the climate crisis without compromising on speed, innovation, or customer insight? The scale and urgency of the transformation required to fight climate change has never been more clear. Building hardware and software products, acquiring the funding and creating a diverse community to enhance talent capacity and to drive innovation, is essential to tackling this global environmental crisis. In this podcast, Silicon Valley Bank (a division of First Citizens Bank) Climate Tech & Sustainability SVP Maggie Wong will be interviewing Elysian Aircraft Co-Founder & Co-CEO Daniel Rosen Jacobson to discuss decarbonizing aviation industry via EV battery, prioritizing to get customer feedback early, as well as being able to learn and unlearn to succeed in product development.
