
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
How can you become a game changer?Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
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Oct 22, 2024 • 32min
309. Women Legal Leaders — Leading with Purpose: Women in the Legal Arena
Welcome back to The Game Changing Attorney Podcast's "Road to the Summit" mini-series! As we continue our journey toward the 2024 Game Changers Summit, each Tuesday we’re diving into impactful conversations with the most powerful moments from previous Summits and speakers you’ll see this year.In this episode, we’re excited to bring together four powerful women in the legal industry who are breaking boundaries and leading with confidence: Sara Williams, Samantha Ball, Mariam Kuregyan, and Rachel Flood. These remarkable leaders share their unique journeys and discuss the importance of female leadership, overcoming self-doubt, and redefining what it means to be a successful woman in law today.Are you facing challenges stepping into your full leadership potential? This conversation will inspire you to embrace your strengths, challenge societal norms, and step up without apology.Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why it’s essential to stop apologizing for being great at what you do
How to challenge traditional expectations and create your own path to success
The importance of visibility and mentorship for the next generation of female leaders
Join us for a deep dive into leadership, confidence, and owning your power in the legal world. The road to the Summit is here!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction03:11 – Defining Leadership: Insights from the Panel05:47 – Addressing Misconceptions about Female Leaders09:48 – Overcoming Resistance as Female Leaders in Male-Dominated Fields14:26 – Balancing Work and Home: Authenticity and Leadership17:33 – The Benefits of Female Leadership in the Legal Industry21:06 – Setting an Example for the Next Generation of Female Leaders25:08 – Advice for the Next Generation of Women Leaders30:43 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Davana Law Firm
Flood Law Firm
Disability Attorneys of Michigan
Alexander Shunnarah Trial Attorneys
Armenia
Crisp
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249 Codie Sanchez – Maximizing Income: Strategies for Achieving Financial Freedom
269 Jan Dils– Leading the Largest Female-Founded Law Firm in America
302 AMMA – Leading with Integrity: How to Compete Ethically

Oct 17, 2024 • 23min
308. AMMA — Overcoming Doubt: Turning Fear into Fuel
Ever feel like life is moving faster than you can keep up?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we’re diving deep into the mindset and strategies that separate high achievers from the rest. I’m breaking down how pace, focus, and mindset can transform your business, your life, and your growth trajectory.You’ll learn:
How accelerating your pace can redefine your standards and put you ahead of the competition.
Overcoming negative thoughts and imposter syndrome to unlock your full potential.
Harnessing motivation — even from sources like fear or doubt — to fuel your growth.
If you're ready to elevate your execution, silence the doubts in your head, and channel your motivation into meaningful impact, this episode is for you. Let’s turn your vision into reality!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction01:26 – Imposter Syndrome: Turning Self-Doubt Into Fuel05:02 – The Speed of Business: Executing at a Higher Level06:12 – Overcoming Negative Thoughts as a Business Leader08:49 – Managing Challenges and Stress in Your Firm12:46 – Imposter Syndrome: Being in the Right Room16:49 – The Power of Dark Energy: Using Doubt to Your Advantage19:52 – Shifting From Personal to Team Success22:35 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Zootopia
DMV
Michael Jordan
Kobe Bryant
Franco brothers
Andy Grove
Intel
Harvard
Django
Apple
Turbo
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298 Rich Diviney– The Fundamental Traits Navy SEALs Use to Excel
283 Marcus Filly – Fitness Secrets for Professional Success
292 AMMA – A Leader’s Battle Against Complacency

Oct 15, 2024 • 40min
307. Legal Thought Leaders — The Art of Authentic Brand Building
Welcome back to The Game Changing Attorney Podcast's "Road to the Summit" mini-series! As we continue our journey toward the 2024 Game Changers Summit, each Tuesday we’re diving into impactful conversations with the most powerful moments from previous Summits and speakers you’ll see this year.In this episode, we’re thrilled to feature an expert panel of game changers: Judy Smith, Sara Williams, Harlan Schillinger, and Joe Fried. These industry leaders bring their unique insights on how to build an authentic, standout brand that drives long-term success.Are you struggling to stand out in a sea of competitors? This conversation will uncover how authenticity, clear messaging, and credibility can help you rise above the noise.Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why being true to yourself is your most powerful branding tool
How to position yourself as a subject matter expert in your field
The secret to creating a brand that resonates and builds trust
Tune in for key strategies on brand-building from the legal industry's most respected voices. The road to the Summit is here!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction02:00 – Authenticity and Trust in Building a Brand05:37 – Personal Branding: Staying True to Yourself09:34 – Credibility and the Role of Being Real13:47 – Becoming a Subject Matter Expert: Joe Fried’s Journey17:30 – The Power of Vulnerability and Passion in Success19:59 – Cancel Culture and Course Correction25:03 – The Importance of Diversity in Branding and Leadership30:48 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Scandal
Seth Godin
Lowe’s
Home Depot
Alexander Shunnarah
Jeff Bezos
The Ritz-Carlton
Peloton
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280 Rory Vaden – Reputation Precedes Revenue: Mastering the Art of Personal Branding
154 Conrad Saam – Data Over Guesswork: The Strategies Behind Effective Legal Marketing
271 AMMA – Building a Bullet-Proof Brand

Oct 10, 2024 • 24min
306. AMMA — From Ramen to Rolex: Celebrating Milestones Wisely
Is your law firm stuck because you’re mismanaging your finances? It’s time for a serious wake up call.On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill dives into the hard truths about balancing personal splurges with reinvesting in your firm’s future.You are about to learn:
The investment mindset that separates the elite from the rest.
How to enjoy the fruits of your labor without sabotaging your firm's growth.
Key strategies for keeping your team on board while you celebrate personal wins.
If you’re serious about dominating your market and ensuring every dollar propels your law firm forward, this episode is for you.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction01:09 – The Significance of Financial Success in the Legal Industry02:07 – Balancing Indulgence with Business Growth05:31 – How to Confidently Spend on Yourself Without Guilt06:33 – The Journey of Law Firm Owners: Reinvesting vs. Indulging10:33 – Reinvestment as a Path to Becoming a Market Leader14:14 – Celebrating Milestones and Rewarding Yourself18:16 – Managing Team Perception of Your Success22:21 – Why Money Shouldn’t Be Demonized in the Legal Profession----Links & Resources
Bluey
Party City
Disney
Olaf
Peppa Pig
Mario
Luigi
Game Changers Summit
Alexander Shunnarah
Lamborghini Huracan
Lamborghini Diablo
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264 Bill Perkins – Die with Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life
285 Morgan Housel – Mastering the Psychology of Wealth: Beyond Money and Success
304 AMMA – Creating a Culture of Success

Oct 8, 2024 • 39min
305. John Morgan — Luck, Hustle, and the Art of Disruption: Building America's Largest Law Firm [Encore Edition]
Welcome to The Game Changing Attorney Podcast’s exclusive "Road to the Summit" mini-series! As we count down to the 2024 Game Changers Summit — the #1 Law Firm Growth Conference on Earth — we’re bringing you the most impactful conversations from past events and episodes featuring the powerhouse speakers you’ll see this year.In this electrifying conversation, we’re diving into the mindset, strategies, and lessons from none other than John Morgan — a true legal titan and one of the most successful attorneys in the world. From building the largest personal injury firm in America to redefining legal marketing, John shares how he scaled his empire with grit, vision, and relentless ambition.Here’s what you’ll learn:
How John’s “teacup” strategy helped him dominate new markets and scale nationally
Why recognizing the role of luck can shape your success
The key to long-term growth through relationships and integrity
If you’re ready to get fired up and take your firm to the next level, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss. The Road to the Summit starts here!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction02:00 – The Role of Luck in John Morgan’s Success05:26 – A Life-Changing Case: Financial Independence from a Paraplegic Case07:28 – How John Morgan Defines Success08:43 – Facing Animosity and Competition in the Legal Market11:22 – The Importance of Giving Without Expectation19:33 – Knowing Yourself: Self-Examination for Success27:30 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
You Can’t Teach Hungry: Creating the Multimillion Dollar Law Firm by John Morgan
Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr. by Ron Chernow
Litify
Give and Take by Adam Grant
Only the Paranoid Survive: How to Exploit the Crisis Points That Challenge Every Company by Andrew S. Grove
You Can’t Teach Vision: The Twenty-First Century Law Firm by John Morgan
The Second Half of Life by Angeles Arrien
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289 John Morgan – Grow or Die: The Mindset of a Champion
269 Jan Dils – Leading the Largest Female-Founded Law Firm in America
290 AMMA – The Realities of Starting a Law Firm

Oct 3, 2024 • 26min
304. AMMA — Creating a Culture of Success: Team Dynamics Revealed
What’s your excuse for not building a high-performance team — because Michael Mogill has none?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill shares powerful insights on building momentum, fostering a winning culture, and leading your team to peak performance. Through personal stories and compelling sports anecdotes, he reveals what it really takes to drive growth and navigate team dynamics.Here’s what you’ll learn:
How to create unstoppable momentum for your firm by leveraging every win
Proven methods for aligning new hires with your firm's culture from day one
Strategies for boosting team engagement and collaboration in a remote world
If you're serious about transforming your firm's performance — this episode is for you.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction05:02 – Integrating New Hires with Your Firm’s Culture and Values08:41 – Testing and Challenging New Hires Early10:46 – Boosting Team Engagement and Motivation12:03 – The Importance of Skill Development for Job Satisfaction13:49 – Aligning Incentives for Better Performance16:32 – Fostering a Sense of Community in a Geographically Dispersed Team17:44 – Remote Work vs. In-Person Collaboration: Finding the Balance25:23 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Falcons
Monday Night Football
Eagles
Jalen Hurts
Chiefs
University of Alabama
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240 Jessica Mogill – Why Hiring A-Players is Important
287 Dan Martell – Buy Back Your Time: Mastering the Art of Delegation
214 AMMA – Dream Team: How to Hire and Keep High-Performing Talent

Oct 3, 2024 • 54min
303. Eric Thomas — Turning Struggles into Strength: A Blueprint for Resilience [Encore Edition]
In this special encore edition of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we’re bringing back one of the most powerful episodes featuring Eric “ET” Thomas. From homeless high school dropout to world-renowned motivational speaker, author, and educator, ET’s story of triumph is nothing short of remarkable. Revisit this incredible conversation where he shares the pivotal moments and influential figures that drove him to overcome impossible odds and reach the top.In this episode, you’ll learn:
Why desire is the ultimate key to achievement
The biggest mistakes leaders make — and how to avoid them
Practical strategies to overcome self-sabotage and unleash your potential
If you’re ready to break through barriers and fuel your own journey toward greatness, this episode is for you.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction03:15 – Overcoming Homelessness and Hardship05:16 – The Turning Point: Finding Hope and Support07:53 – The Role of Dee Dee in Eric’s Success13:27 – From High School Dropout to PhD: Why Eric Kept Going18:02 – Helping Underprivileged Youth: A Lifelong Mission22:05 – “When You Want to Succeed as Bad as You Want to Breathe”29:06 – Desire, Effort, and Legacy: The Keys to Success33:51 – Motivating Teams: Speaking the Right Language51:00 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
McDonald’s
MLB
NFL
Detroit, MI
Phil Jackson
Michael Jordan
Kobe Bryant
Credit score
Michigan State University
Brian McKnight
Take 6
Iron Man
Superman
GED
Oakwood University
NBA
Think and Grow Rich: A Black Choice by Dennis Kimbro and Napoleon Hill
Federal TRIO programs
Steve Smith
Dan Gilbert
Magic Johnson
Crenshaw schools
YouTube
General Motors (GM)
Chrysler
Tom Brady
Nick Saban
University of Alabama
Auburn University
S&P 500
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96 – The Mindsets of Champions: Best of Elite Athletes
266 Dr. Ayelet Fishbach – Get It Done: Surprising Lessons From the Science of Motivation
268 AMMA – Resilience in the Face of Uncertainty

Sep 26, 2024 • 17min
302. AMMA — Leading with Integrity: How to Compete Ethically
Contrary to popular belief, if you’re too obsessed with your competition, it’s going to kill your business. It’s time to take a new approach.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill pulls back the curtain on the hard truths of running a law firm in today’s cutthroat legal landscape.Prepare yourself for an unfiltered look at:
How to stay ahead when competitors play dirty and bend the rules
Why relentless execution always beats big ideas — and why most firms fail without it
The deadly impact of ego on leadership, and how it can destroy your business from the inside out
This no-holds-barred conversation is all about grit, focus, and playing to win. If you’re ready to step up and lead with ruthless efficiency, even when the odds seem stacked against you, then this one's for you.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction03:29 – Staying Competitive Without Compromising Integrity07:25 – Addressing Ego in High-Performing Team Members09:49 – The Impact of Ego on Team Dynamics11:39 – Tying Performance to Future Success13:49 – Ensuring Team Focus on High-Impact Tasks14:59 – The Role of Leaders in Prioritizing Tasks15:25 – Setting Critical Results: Daily Top Three Approach16:19 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
LASIK
Starbucks
Amazon
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182 Randi McGinn – Authenticity is the Advantage
251 Alex Hormozi– The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success
299 AMMA – How to Build a Resilient, Self-Sufficient Team That Thrives Without You

Sep 24, 2024 • 47min
301. Michael Cowen — Investing in Legal Excellence: Training, Tools, and Team Building
Imagine the key to your success lies in one simple decision: YES or NO.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, renowned trial attorney Michael Cowen dives deep into the power of strategic refusal and how saying no can unlock immense focus and success in your career. From mastering your craft to turning down million-dollar offers, Michael reveals how focusing on the right cases transformed his firm and his life.Buckle up. You are about to change how you think about growth, success, and the art of saying no.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction01:17 – Building a Firm Through Relationships04:13 – Michael Cowen’s Journey to Becoming a Trucking Expert07:37 – Writing the Book: Establishing Authority in the Industry10:27 – Balancing Risk vs. Reward in High-Stakes Cases12:32 – The Three C’s: Creativity, Courage, and Commitment17:26 – Scaling Your Team: Training and Developing Talent21:04 – The Impact of Hiring a COO on Firm Growth22:31 – Paying Out $100 Million in Referral Fees: A Unique Approach45:29 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Michael Cowen ----Links & Resources
Episode 70
Trial Lawyer Nation
Big Rig Boot Camp
State Farm
Alta Vista
Federal Motor Care Safety Regulations
Courtroom View Network
Delta
Chris Klein
McDonald’s
Bentley Motors
Trial Lawyers University
Big Rig Masterclass
The Steve Austin Show
Sean Claggett
Jessica Brylo
Gerry Spence
Alex Begum
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#70 Michael Cowen – Play to Your Strengths and Unlock Your Firm’s Potential
#251 Alex Hormozi – The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success
#237 AMMA – Breaking Out of Complacency

Sep 19, 2024 • 2h
300. Legends & Leaders: 300 Episodes of Game Changing Insights
From Episode 1 to 299, The Game Changing Attorney Podcast has continued to elevate the bar, showcasing legendary figures, disruptive innovators, and top-tier leaders from the legal industry and beyond.Now, for this epic 300th episode, we’re taking it to the next level. Get ready for our biggest celebration yet — featuring not only the most unforgettable guests and groundbreaking moments, but also exclusive stories, bold predictions for the future, and the game changing insights that have defined this show’s legacy. This isn’t just another milestone. It’s a revolution.You won’t want to miss this lineup of podcast powerhouses from some of the most influential figures who’ve shared their stories:
John Morgan: Founder of Morgan & Morgan
Jessica Mogill: Crisp Head of Coaching Strategy
Mark Manson: Best-Selling Author of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck
Andre Norman: Author & Founder of The Academy of Hope
Jan Dils: Founder of Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law
David Goggins: Retired Navy SEAL & Best-Selling Author
Alex Hormozi: Founder & Managing Partner of Acquisition.com
Dan Martell: Best-Selling Author & Entrepreneur
Ross Pomerantz: Comedian & Social Media Personality "Corporate Bro"
Chris Voss: Former Lead FBI International Hostage Negotiator
Codie Sanchez: Entrepreneur & Investor
Morgan Housel: Best-Selling Author of The Psychology of Money
Each conversation offers a masterclass in overcoming challenges, relentless execution, and redefining what’s possible in leadership, business, and life. Tune in to hear how these trailblazers made their mark!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction02:12 – John Morgan's Origin Story10:35 – Jessica Mogul on Leadership and Culture20:17 – Mark Manson on Happiness and Struggle32:05 – Andre Norman's Transformation44:21 – Jan Dil’s Legal Journey52:20 – David Goggins' Harrowing Upbringing1:05:00 – Alex Hormozy's Entrepreneurial Evolution1:07:45 – Traits of Successful Entrepreneurs1:17:51 – Dan Martell's Buyback Principle1:27:20 – Ross Pomerantz aka Corporate Bro: Satire and Authenticity in Sales1:36:00 – Tactical Empathy: Insights from Chris Voss1:43:28 – Codie Sanchez on Financial Freedom Through Business Ownership1:52:01 – Morgan Housel on The Psychology of Money: Understanding Wealth and Happiness1:59:25 – Conclusion and Resources for Growth----Links & Resources
Episode 1 — John Morgan
Episode 47 — Jessica Mogill
Episode 72 — Mark Manson
Episode 98 — Andre Norman
Episode 126 — Jan Dils
Episode 141 — David Goggins
Episode 158 — Alex Hormozi
Episode 187 — Dan Martell
Episode 232 — Ross Pomerantz
Episode 242 — Chris Voss
Episode 249 — Codie Sanchez
Episode 285 — Morgan Housel
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