
Protect the Hustle | A SaaS Podcast
Accelerate your B2B SaaS growth and get better as an operator. Join Paddle as we explore the truth behind the strategy and tactics of those scaling in SaaS. Basically this podcast gives you a team of advisors in the trenches actually doing the work.
Latest episodes

May 12, 2020 • 42min
Gainsight’s Nick Mehta on Orchestrating Harmonious CS
Topics covered in this episode
Why providing customers with a desired outcome is crucial
How to align customer success properly within an organization and how to measure it
The scoreboard Nick recommends using to help rationalize feedback
Customer outcomes + great customer experience = customer success
Check out the making of Nick's rap song, "Who's Fired Up?" here.This is a ProfitWell Recur Studios production—the first media network dedicated entirely to the SaaS and subscription space.

May 5, 2020 • 41min
Moz & Sparktoro's Rand Fishkin on How Early-Stage Failure Bred Future Success
Topics covered in this episode
The primary reasons for Moz's failure and what Rand would've changed about the operation
The implications of creating an anti-active usage product
The lessons Rand extracted from early failure and how he picked back up again as a secondary founder
The cruciality of leveraging your resources—namely, people and product—to optimize for the right thing
This is a ProfitWell Recur Studios production—the first media network dedicated entirely to the SaaS and subscription space.

Apr 24, 2020 • 32min
B-Side E01: Are we overreacting or not doing enough?
This is a ProfitWell Recur Studios production—the first media network dedicated entirely to the SaaS and subscription space.

Aug 8, 2019 • 28min
Revisiting: HubSpot's Brian Halligan and the Difficulty of Scaling Up
Topics covered in this episode
The saga of Brian Halligan's purchase of Jerry Garcia's guitar
The differences of running a company with 2 to 20 people, 20 to 200 people, 200 to 2,00 people, and beyond
Recognizing that mistakes happen but ensuring that mistakes do not happen more than once
Maintaining high-performance and how slacking in one area can lead to the downfall of the entire company Everything is tied together.
There is no hero ball in a Scale-Up
Death by overeating vs starvation by not executing
Going into other markets after championing marketing automation
Staying focused on the long arduous journey of creating a great company
The hunger to be a pillar company in Boston that makes your children proud.
Staying motivated by going after big meaty problems and staying determined with horizon planning

Aug 6, 2019 • 18min
New show preview: Tradeoffs with Hiten Shah
Welcome to the first-ever episode of Tradeoffs, where Hiten Shah (of FYI and Product Habits) and I talk through the product decisions of popular companies and the potential tradeoffs they made as a result. We break down how these choices shaped the growth of these companies and what it means for their future. Starting it off is our conversation about online streaming juggernaut Netflix.You can find a full blog write up here, as well as subscribe to get the show delivered to your inbox weekly.

Aug 1, 2019 • 42min
Revisiting: Netflix's Patty McCord on Building a Great Place to Be From
Company culture means a lot of things to a lot of different people, not because culture has a lot of definitions, but because culture has been co-opted by perks, ping pong tables, and snacks in the kitchen. In reality, culture is behavioral, it’s the collection of habits that we accept and tolerate within our company and it will make or break your business.Culture is hard though, because it's your responsibility to hire the right people, nurture the right behaviors, and let people go when they aren't fitting the future. As a group, we're pretty terrible at this, particularly that last one. To help, on this week's episode of Protect The Hustle, we interview one of the most prolific figures in People Operations and HR, Patty McCord, the former Chief Talent Officer at Netflix and author of Powerful, a book that's taken high growth companies by storm. We discuss how Patty went from Texas border towns and Oregon lumber yards to making the tough decisions to push Netflix to a $160B market cap, which included redefining what HR is supposed to be inside a company. Topics covered in this episode:
How HR and People Operations became legal and anything but helping people do their best work within a company
How writing down your values is pretty much the last step in the culture cultivation process
How to model behavior instead of punishing or negatively reinforcing people
How management has ultimate responsibility for all of this
How to apply these learnings to your hiring process
How to nurture your current team and stamp out politics
How to let people go who are no longer a fit for the mission

Jul 25, 2019 • 25min
Qordoba’s CEO, May Habib, Talks Total Market Transition
Every company goes up market eventually, especially in B2B. Most do so by expanding their offering, few actually make the leap from abandoning the low end of the market and going right at the enterprise instead. So how do you get there? Transitioning from the startup market to the enterprise world requires strategic pivoting and a proactive group effort. May Habib has witnessed this first hand, as she played a pivotal role in the market transition of content intelligence platform Qordoba. May oversaw a considerable transformation with Qordoba, moving from the low end of the market as a content localization product to selling to giant enterprises like Marriott, Visa, and Condé Nast. She's steadfast in the mindset that training is everything, and you must prioritize heavy coaching, transparency, and feedback in the process. Listen here to see how she did it so successfully.Topics covered in this episode:
Transitioning markets (from startup to enterprise) through strategic pivoting
Training your team for proactivity through heavy coaching
The value of transparency and feedback in your process of transition
This is a ProfitWell Recur Studios production—the first media network dedicated entirely to the SaaS and subscription space.

Jul 18, 2019 • 33min
Former CEO of Lola.com, Mike Volpe: Without great people, you will fail
People are the hardest part of building a company.Think about it - when you’re building a company, your people are the company. And if you’re terrible at finding great people, hiring great people, and keeping great people, then your company is going to fail.Mike Volpe is an excellent example of someone who is great at all three of those. Currently the CEO of lola.com, he was able to put together one of the most all star marketing teams of the past couple of decades during his time as the CMO of HubSpot.In this episode of Protect the Hustle, Mike walks us through his methodology for recruiting, hiring, and retaining stellar team members that allowed him to build the marketing department at HubSpot into what it is today.This is a ProfitWell Recur Studios production—the first media network dedicated entirely to the SaaS and subscription space.

Jul 12, 2019 • 39min
Yesware's Matthew Bellows on growth and success stemming from unrelenting focus
Topics covered in this episode
Having a product team that can say “no” in order to stay on plan
Choosing one singular focus and target customer instead of trying to do everything
The future goals of Yesware
Keeping product and sales focus, and how it's made Yesware successful
Getting your team aligned and on board with direction
The Characteristics of a great salesperson
This episode is produced by Dan Callahan, Benjamin Hillman, and Patrick Campbell. Additional support by Steve Cerasoli and Allissa Chan.Written by Mary MattonProtect the Hustle is a ProfitWell Recur Production. All rights reserved.

Jun 28, 2019 • 27min
HubSpot's Katie Burke on Building Culture and Embracing the Skeptics
If you ask someone to define “culture” in your office, you might get a response about ping-pong tables or beers on tap. But we know culture constitutes something so much greater. It’s the collection of habits you accept and nurture within your organization. It’s molding the same foundational principles that drive the core of behavior, but also having fiercely diverse views in all other aspects. And this is where your skeptics come in. While skeptics can be incredibly difficult to deal with at times, they are key to building a solid culture, which is something Katie Burke, Chief People Officer at HubSpot, believes to her core. She discreetly recognizes the difference between skeptics and cynics, embracing feedback from skeptics as the way to ultimately grow (and better) your organization.Topics covered in this episode
The advantage of staying truly unique in your market
Building a successful culture with consistency, time, energy, and effort
Recognizing the value in skeptics
Evolving your culture through feedback