BE THAT LAWYER

Steve Fretzin
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Sep 28, 2020 • 36min

Jon Vegosen: Client-Centric Business Development

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jon Vegosen discuss:How Jon learned about the importance of relationships early in life and how it has affected his career.The benefits of being on one or multiple boards for both the lawyer as well as the board itself.Nothing ventured, nothing gained - keeping your higher purpose in mind will strengthen your position and your will.Building relationships that go above and beyond the legal work. Making everything about those relationships. Key Takeaways:You don’t always have to agree, but it is how you disagree - with respect.Be responsive, provide first rate service, bring joy and always follow up.Develop your confidence so you can gain the confidence of clients and provide wise counsel.Always, always, always be there for your clients. "I take a genuine interest in others, I befriend them, and they see that I care. I listen to them. With a high mission of service, I try to help them with things in their personal and business lives that may have nothing to do with legal issues." —  Jon Vegosen Connect with Jon Vegosen:  Website: FVLDLaw.comEmail: JVegosen@FVLDLaw.comCall Jon directly: 312-701-6860LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/in/Jon-Vegosen-06b155/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 
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Sep 21, 2020 • 30min

Justin Breen: Investing in a Vision with PR

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Justin Breen discuss:Looking for visionaries and seeing the ROI in PR. Creating real value and relationships. Tips and tools for lawyers to get ahead and build a better business.  Key Takeaways:Investments are investments, they aren’t a cost. The most important thing about being in media is to get validity and credibility both short term and long term.Raising your rates earns you respect for the people and clients that matter the most. "I think of it as direct and I know who my tribe is, and it just weeds out all the nonsense, all the noise. And that's how I built this global successful company in three years." —  Justin Breen Connect with Justin Breen:  LinkedIn: Justin BreenWebsite: BrEpicBusiness.comBook: Epic Business: 30 Secrets to Build Your Business Exponentially and Give You the Freedom to Live the Life You Want!Twitter: @BrEpicCommFacebook: BrEpic Business Book  Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 
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Sep 14, 2020 • 31min

Kait LeDonne: Aligning Your Brand Authentically

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Kait LeDonne discuss:Branding, marketing, and sales - how are they different and how do they work together for you and your company. The top mistakes companies and individuals make before going to market. Narrowing your niche to become the expert in that specific area. Keeping authentic with your branding.  Key Takeaways:People want to feel seen, heard, and understood. If you can tackle that in branding, you will have a step up for other aspects of your client relationship. NIche down your audience down to the details - if you’re not talking to somebody, you’re talking to nobody. FOCUS - Follow One Course Until Successful. Refine and perfect one marketing channel and dominate that before rolling it into another channel.  "Right now, social media attention is an all-time high. You need to be out there providing those comforting statements of what people don't know they don't know about how COVID is impacting them, and you need to be doing it on a platform where your audience is most likely spending time." —  Kait LeDonne Connect with Kait LeDonne:  Website: LeDonneBrands.comLinkedIn: Kait LeDonneTwitter: @kaitledonneFacebook: Kait LeDonneInstagram: @kaitledonneBook: The Attraction Magnet Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 
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Sep 7, 2020 • 39min

The Dueling Banjos of Legal Business Development

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jay Harrington discuss:Seeing opportunity even in the time of COVID-19.Prioritizing business development.Networking efficiently and effectively with a plan. Investing in a coach and the benefits of doing so.  Key Takeaways:Don't assume that the opportunities aren't there, you've got to become more proactive.Prioritizing that one hour a day to work on business development is the most important thing you probably do all day.Business development is the key to financial freedom and security. There is value in making an investment. We take things more seriously if we invest dollars into something.  "You need to position yourself to be more visible and relevant in places where people are now searching for solutions - which is online." —  Jay Harrington Connect with Jay Harrington:  Twitter: @harringj75Facebook: HarringtonWebsite: HCommunications.bizBook: The Productivity Pivot & More!Show: The Thought Leadership ProjectLinkedIn: Jay Harrington Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 
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Aug 31, 2020 • 28min

Duc Trang: Being a Top Law Firm Partner

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Duc Trang discuss:Engaging with companies about their business specifically. How to get in the door with a high-level GC. The value of different billing models. Trends in the law field as a result of COVID-19. Key Takeaways:It’s a lot cheaper to create additional revenue streams from your current client base. You want to have the headspace of your current clients so that they will have conversations about you when you're not in the room or when you're not askingWe will all have our successes and our lack of successes. Take a clientcentric approach - stay curious and look outside of yourself and your career.  "In fact, [General Counsel are] probably talking to the firm because they've already been vetted that you have technical expertise, what they want to understand are two things: Do you understand my business and my business problem of which legal is only apart? And how would you marshall the resources at the firm to try to help you solve this business problems?" —  Duc Trang Connect with Duc Trang:  Website: MLAGlobal.comLinkedIn: Duc V. Trang Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 
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Aug 24, 2020 • 23min

Jim Lundy: Embracing the New Reality

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jim Lundy discuss:Why you want to grow your own book of business. Balancing business development, marketing, client service, and the billable hour. Changes to the legal community because of the current pandemic. Giving and assisting with sincerity.  Key Takeaways:The best way for a lawyer to be their own boss was to develop their own practiceTreat your business development as important as the billable hour. View other lawyers as collaborators and as potential referral sources, not as competitors. We need to embrace the new reality and use the virtual opportunities that we have to continue to interact with our clients and potential clients. "Whether you're on your own as a solo, whether you're in a small firm, or whether you're in a large firm, I think you do have to view yourself as your own businessman." —  Jim Lundy Connect with Jim Lundy:  Email: James.Lundy@FaegreDrinker.comCell Phone: 708-557-9656LinkedIn: Jim LundyWebsite: FaegreDrinker.com Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 
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Aug 17, 2020 • 27min

Steve Seckler: Coaching to the Next Level

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Steve Seckler discuss:Getting to know others as a way to sell professional services. Challenges and issues facing lawyers in career transitions and building a law practice.Ways to start building your book of business. Transitioning out to potential retirement or out of the law.  Key Takeaways:Selling legal services is not about a hard sell. It’s learning about people's concerns and getting to know them over time. Lawyers, as a group, tend to be more conservative, which can make it difficult for them to make lateral moves or move to an equity role. Coaching is a strength, not a weakness. People have succeeded in every field at every level because of a coach. When you are thinking about transitioning, you want to have a plan in place. You won’t want to make the decisions on the doorstep out. You want to make the decisions long before you get out.  "The best subjects for coaching are the people that have the most potential." —  Steve Seckler Connect with Steve Seckler:  Twitter: @stephensecklerWebsite: CounselToCounsel.comShow: Counsel to Counsel with Stephen Seckler, Esq.LinkedIn: Stephen Seckler Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 
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Aug 10, 2020 • 23min

Brad Barkin: Having the Right Insurance Broker for Your Law Firm

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Brad Barkin discuss:Reasons for having insurance and challenges that lawyers face in making those choices. Networking to identify new business and new strategic partners. Being a better provider by going beyond the transaction. The changing landscape of the insurance industry.  Key Takeaways:Always be offering. What goes around comes around. Embracing technology and adapting that technology to your company can be massively helpful for you and your company. Being selfless goes a long way. If you’re helping someone, in more ways than standard, you will be a better advocate for your client. Insurance is not going anywhere, but there is more technology being inserted into the space which will only benefit the consumer. "If you can be a provider or a source of expertise on something to the industry beyond simply insurance, then you're instantly a better advocate or a better provider then the next guy." —  Brad Barkin Connect with Brad Barkin:  Website: Embroker.comLinkedIn: Brad Barkin Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 
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Aug 3, 2020 • 45min

David Fram: Giving a Great Legal Presentation

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and David Fram discuss:The importance of good public speaking. Challenges lawyers typically have around speaking and how it can be helped.Key steps when giving a legal presentation. Enhancing not detracting from your presentation both in person and online with body language, visuals, and how you are laying out your presentation.  Key Takeaways:Any good teacher or speaker can make any topic interesting. A bad teacher or speaker can make even the most interesting topics boring. Content is a small part of a listeners takeaway - roughly 7% based on studies. You get credibility when you use the terminology that your audience knows and uses.People are motivated and learn through story. Be excited about what you are speaking about. Use your body to bring the audience into what you are saying.  "You’re getting tons of exposure when you do a presentation, you should be getting value back." —  David Fram Connect with David Fram:  Twitter: @FramNELIWebsite: NELI.org & DavidKFram.comBook: Raising the Bar: How to Give Outstanding Legal PresentationsYouTube: David K. Fram SpeakerLinkedIn: David Fram Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 
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Jul 27, 2020 • 30min

Ron Bockstahler: Third-Party Suites for Lawyers and Collaboration

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ron Bockstahler discuss:Natural networking while working in a suite of lawyers. Building your book of business from early in your career. Finding efficiencies to make the most out of what you have.The changes happening in communication and technology and how it is affecting firms. Key Takeaways:Invest in space to have a successful law firm - but having third party offices may be a really good option. Collaboration is a key aspect to practicing law. Utilize this time that we have to build your brand, reconnect, and help those that you can.Revitalize old contacts and relationships while we have the time and technology to do so, even if it isn’t in person.  "We're seeing some firms look at pooling their back office resources into a separate third party company, which never thought you would have seen some of the largest firms in the world looking to do something like that. I think that's going to be happening more and more." —  Ron Bockstahler Connect with Ron Bockstahler:  Twitter: @amataofficesFacebook: Amata Law Office SuitesWebsite: AmataOffices.comEmail: RonB@AmataOffices.comShow: The 1958 LawyerLinkedIn: Ron Bockstahler &  Amata Law Office Suites Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911  Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

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