
Odd Lots
Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway explore the most interesting topics in finance, markets and economics. Join the conversation every Monday and Thursday.
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Apr 10, 2025 • 32min
Rob Kaplan on How the Fed Will Think about the Tariffs
Rob Kaplan, Vice Chairman of Goldman Sachs and former President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, dives into the Fed's complex balancing act amid current economic turmoil. He discusses the impact of new tariffs on global markets and the looming threat of recession. With markets reacting paradoxically, Kaplan emphasizes the Fed's cautious approach to monetary policy in a landscape riddled with uncertainty. The fluctuating Treasury yields and challenges in the energy sector add further layers of complexity, making for a riveting analysis of today's economic climate.

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Apr 9, 2025 • 31min
Viktor Shvets on Trump's Historical, Revolutionary Moves
Viktor Shvets, head of global desk strategy at Macquarie Capital, shares his insights on the crossroads of U.S. history as the neoliberal consensus fades. He dissects the controversial Trump tariffs, revealing their impact on small businesses and the broader market. Shvets discusses the revolutionary shifts in American governance, comparing them to historical figures like Andrew Jackson and FDR. He also examines the evolving notion of American exceptionalism and the geopolitical ramifications for both the U.S. and smaller nations in trade negotiations.

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Apr 8, 2025 • 20min
What Tariffs Are Doing to North American Freight
Matt Silver, CEO of Cargado and seasoned freight broker, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of North American trade amidst shifting tariffs. He discusses strategies being employed to navigate uncertainties created by recent trade policies, especially between the U.S. and Mexico. The conversation highlights the growth in trade figures despite these challenges and sheds light on the innovative solutions from customs brokers. Silver also explores how current tariffs could reshape trucking and international supply chains.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 24min
What Trump's Tariffs Are Already Doing to World Trade
Ryan Petersen, the founder and CEO of Flexport, dives into the immediate effects of Trump's new tariffs on global trade. Companies are racing to move goods to avoid deadlines, leading to contract cancellations and delayed factory projects. Petersen explains the complex mechanisms of implementing tariffs and the operational hurdles businesses face. He discusses how these tariffs are reshaping logistics strategies and the broader economic implications, including rising consumer prices and disrupted supply chains.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 44min
Tether's CEO Speaks on His Insanely Profitable Business
Paolo Ardoino, CEO of Tether, has played a crucial role in the rise of the stablecoin USDT, transforming it into a financial powerhouse. In this insightful conversation, he dives into how Tether has thrived amid skepticism, boasting significant profitability and substantial U.S. Treasury holdings. Ardoino discusses regulatory challenges, the need for transparency, and Tether's unique auditing strategy. He also highlights innovative projects like solar-powered kiosks in Africa, illustrating how stablecoins can uplift local communities while navigating the complex crypto landscape.

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Apr 5, 2025 • 29min
Brad Setser on the Damage From Trump's Gigantic Tariff Shock
Brad Setser, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, delves into the implications of Trump's tariffs on global trade. He highlights the U.S.'s choice to go it alone rather than collaborate with allies, which has ignited fears of a recession. Setser analyzes how these tariffs have led to reciprocal actions from China and explores potential strategies businesses might adopt to shift production overseas. He critiques the simplistic reasoning behind tariffs, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of global trade dynamics.

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Apr 4, 2025 • 19min
Lots More on a Massive, Historical, Stagflationary Shock
Tom Orlik, Chief Economist for Bloomberg Economics, dives into the complexities of the recent stagflationary shock triggered by sweeping tariffs announced by President Trump. He discusses the unexpected fallout on the stock market and the broader implications for U.S.-China trade relations. Orlik analyzes how these tariffs might influence global trade dynamics, manufacturing strategies, and economic indicators. With inflation concerns mounting, he offers insights into navigating this challenging economic landscape and the potential international reactions from key players like China and Europe.

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Apr 3, 2025 • 41min
Tim Geithner on How to Fight the Next Financial Crisis
Tim Geithner, former US Treasury Secretary and New York Fed head, shares insights on preventing future financial crises. He discusses lessons from the 2008 crash and emphasizes the importance of institutional memory for forthcoming policymakers. Geithner highlights systemic vulnerabilities and the need for balanced interventions during economic turmoil. With his role at Yale's New Bagehot Project, he aims to prepare the next generation to tackle emerging financial risks head-on, reflecting on what could have been done differently in past crises.

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Apr 1, 2025 • 32min
The Growing Risk to Fed Independence That Wall St Isn't Watching
Lev Menand, a Columbia Law School professor and author of "The Fed Unbound," delves into the critical challenges facing the Federal Reserve's independence. He discusses the potential repercussions of recent political maneuvers, specifically how presidential control could reshape regulatory frameworks. Menand highlights the alarming negligence of Wall Street in recognizing these risks and stresses the urgent need for a balanced governance structure to preserve economic stability. The conversation unveils deep implications for monetary policy, trust in markets, and the future of regulatory agencies.

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Mar 31, 2025 • 41min
Nick Denton's Big Bet Against the United States
Nick Denton, founder of Gawker Media, is reinventing himself in Budapest after turning away from the US market. He discusses his bullish stance on China and the implications of Elon Musk's fall from grace. Denton elaborates on the shifting sentiments among European elites and why they're distancing from the US. He also touches on the rise of AI in journalism and trading, the growing market dynamics in Asia, and how political risks reshape investment strategies. His bold insights highlight a transformative era in the global landscape.
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