
Engineering Enablement by Abi Noda
This is a weekly podcast focused on developer productivity and the teams and leaders dedicated to improving it. Topics include in-depth interviews with Platform and DevEx teams, as well as the latest research and approaches on measuring developer productivity. The EE podcast is hosted by Abi Noda, the founder and CEO of DX (getdx.com) and published researcher focused on developing measurement methods to help organizations improve developer experience and productivity.
Latest episodes

Jul 6, 2022 • 46min
Common pitfalls in adopting engineering metrics | Mojtaba Hosseini (Zapier)
In this interview, Mojtaba Hosseini (Director of Engineering at Zapier) talks about how to approach using metrics, pitfalls teams run into, and the common evolution teams go through as they adopt metrics.

Jun 29, 2022 • 39min
Advocating for the voice of the developer | Julio Santana (Workday)
Julio Santana from Workday shares how he thinks about the ideal scope of a Developer Experience team, getting buy-in for DX initiatives, how his team gathers feedback from developers, and more.

Jun 23, 2022 • 39min
Why founding a DevEx team is like starting a startup | Minh Pham, Titus Stone (Ibotta)
In this episode we’re joined by Minh Pham and Titus Stone from Ibotta’s Developer Experience team. You’ll hear their story about how the DX team came into existence, why they view a DX team as a “startup within a startup”, and their vision for what DX at Ibotta will become.

Jun 17, 2022 • 47min
The ultimate guide on Engineering Operations | Ryan Atkins (Asana, Stripe, Dropbox)
In this episode Abi Noda speaks with Ryan Atkins, Asana’s Head of Engineering Operations. They talk about the role of EngOps and when it’s needed, founding an EngOps team, how these teams work in large companies, and more.

Jun 8, 2022 • 41min
Staffing infrastructure teams | Will Larson (Calm, Stripe, Uber)
Will Larson, the CTO at Calm, covers a wide range of topics including whether Infrastructure Engineering is chronically understaffed, the role of Eng Ops, how his opinion on the “build vs buy” question has changed, his thoughts on metrics, and more. Helpful resources:Will's Infraeng bookWill's article, Infrastructure planningWill's article, How to invest in infrastructure

May 26, 2022 • 35min
Supporting autonomous teams | Victoria Morgan-Smith (Financial Times)
Joining us for this episode is Victoria Morgan-Smith, the Director of Delivery for Engineering Enablement at the Financial Times. Victoria shares some of the tradeoffs in having an autonomous, “you build it, you run it” culture. She also shares how her group equips engineering teams with metrics, best practices, and more.Follow Victoria on LinkedIn

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May 12, 2022 • 38min
What it looks like to hire Engineering Effectiveness too late | Peter Seibel (ex-Twitter)
In this episode Abi talks with Peter Seibel. Peter previously was the Director of Engineering for the Democratic National Committee, and before that led Twitter’s Engineering Effectiveness (EE) team. In this interview, Peter reflects on his experience at Twitter, sharing why it’s better to invest in EE early and his vision for how EE teams can fulfill their potential. Useful links:Follow Peter on Twitter and LinkedInRead Peter's post about leading Engineering Effectiveness at Twitter: Let a 1,000 Flowers Bloom. Then Rip 999 of Them Out by the Roots

May 4, 2022 • 37min
Tactics for driving service adoption | Varun Achar (Razorpay)
In this episode, Varun Achar (Director of Engineering at Razorpay) explains how the Platform org has grown from a 15-person team owning everything, to 3 separate subteams. He also shares how they think about creating a culture of productivity, and some of the tactics they’ve used for increasing service adoption.Helpful links: Connect with Varun on LinkedInRead Varun's blog post, The Platform Engineer

Apr 20, 2022 • 22min
How DoorDash’s developer productivity team prioritizes projects | Marco Chirico (DoorDash)
In this episode, Marco Chirico shares the strategies DoorDash’s Developer Productivity group uses to prioritize their work. He also explains how the Developer Productivity group has evolved over time, and how they measure their success today. Useful links: Connect with Marco on LinkedInRead DoorDash's Engineering blog

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Apr 13, 2022 • 43min
How GitHub’s developer experience team has evolved | Liz Saling (GitHub)
Liz Saling, Director of Engineering at GitHub, shares the story of how the Developer Experience group was founded and why GitHub paused features for a quarter to focus on making developer experience improvements. Helpful links:Watch Liz’s GitHub Universe talk, “Paying Down Technical Debt”Find Liz on LinkedIn or TwitterRead Liz’s blog at lizsaling.comRead GitHub’s engineering blog