
Engineering Enablement by Abi Noda
This is a weekly podcast focused on developer productivity and the teams and leaders dedicated to improving it. Topics include in-depth interviews with Platform and DevEx teams, as well as the latest research and approaches on measuring developer productivity. The EE podcast is hosted by Abi Noda, the founder and CEO of DX (getdx.com) and published researcher focused on developing measurement methods to help organizations improve developer experience and productivity.
Latest episodes

Oct 12, 2022 • 45min
Dropbox's journey with developer productivity metrics | Utsav Shah (Vanta, Dropbox)
Utsav Shah, who leads Platform at Vanta and previously led Developer Effectiveness at Dropbox, shares the story of Dropbox’s journey with measuring developer productivity. Utsav discusses what he learned about both system and survey-based measures, his opinion on the usefulness of common Git metrics, and more.

Oct 5, 2022 • 43min
Using customer interviews to inform your roadmap | Michael Galloway (Doma, Netflix)
Michael Galloway (Doma and ex-Netflix) describes his process for interviewing developers to understand where his team should focus. He also explains how he thinks about the strategic value of a Platform team. Resources mentioned: Customer Interview GuideCustomer Interview Questions

Sep 28, 2022 • 47min
Establishing a DevEx team in a high-growth company | Willie Yao (Notion, Airbnb)
In this episode, Willie Yao, Head of Infrastructure at Notion and former Head of Developer Infrastructure at Airbnb, provides a unique perspective on how Developer Experience teams work in hypergrowth companies. He shares how Airbnb developed a customer-first mindset internally, what it took to get Airbnb’s leadership invested in that effort, and how he’s approaching DevEx at Notion today.

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Sep 13, 2022 • 28min
A model for managing requests and complaints from developers | Jasmine James (Twitter)
Jasmine James, Senior Engineering Manager at Twitter, discusses how her team manages support requests, prioritizes based on personas, and presents the ROI. They also explore optimizing workflows, driving developer experience at the VP level, and creating a customer-oriented mindset.

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Sep 1, 2022 • 31min
From DORA to SPACE to DX - A Fireside Chat with Nicole Forsgren
In this special episode, Dr. Nicole Forsgren, author of award-winning book Accelerate and co-author of "The SPACE of Developer Productivity", talks about her work with DORA, the inspiration behind the SPACE framework, and how she's thinking about developer experience.Watch the on-demand fireside chat or read the announcement of Nicole joining DX as a strategic advisor.

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Aug 24, 2022 • 32min
The people side of engineering and an open conversation about Agile | Brent Strange (GoDaddy)
Brent Strange, Director of Engineering Excellence at GoDaddy, has a unique perspective on the role of an internal enablement team because he focuses more on the people and processes instead of tooling. Here he shares his perspective on org structure, as well as the role of agile coaches and his response to some of the negative views that exist towards Agile.

Aug 10, 2022 • 37min
Moving Slack's development experience to remote environments | Sylvestor George (Slack)
Sylvestor George (Staff Software Engineer on Slack’s Internal Tools Team) led a project to move the entire development experience to remote environments, which was widely regarded as a “dramatically better experience”. Here he shares the full story of that project, including how they identified the problem, the solution they created, and how they convinced engineers to adopt the new workflow.

Aug 4, 2022 • 33min
Snyk’s journey with developer experience and productivity | Crystal Hirschorn (Snyk)
In this episode Abi Noda is joined by Crystal Hirschorn, who leads Platform Infrastructure, SRE, and Developer Experience at Snyk. In their conversation, Crystal shares the story behind the recently founded Developer experience group, including why they named the team Developer Experience, how she calculates the cost of the problems they solve, and how they partner with engineering teams.

Jul 28, 2022 • 31min
Supporting 100,000 engineers | Max Pugliese (IBM)
Max Pugliese, formerly the Director of Developer Experience at IBM, offers a look at what it’s like to support tens of thousands of engineers. He explains why it’s important to think about the culture and processes surrounding the tooling changes a team tries to implement, how to stay close to developers, and more.

Jul 13, 2022 • 34min
The value of having a PM on a platform team | Jelmer Borst (Picnic Technologies)
In this episode Abi speaks with Jelmer Borst, Product Manager for Picnic Technologies’ Platform group. Jelmer explains what the value is of having a PM in an internal-facing team, and shares his process for gathering feedback from developers to understand where they’re experiencing friction.