
The Measure Pod
The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement—with a side of fun.
Latest episodes

Apr 14, 2023 • 36min
#76 The end of rules-based attribution is nigh!
Show notes and full transcript is available at https://bit.ly/3MYs3iH.
00:15 - Intro
01:31 - Topic
33:00 - Wind down
35:20 - Outro
This week Dan and Dara are back solo this week to talk about the recent news from Google that they are removing most of the rules-based attribution models from Google Analytics 4 and Google Ads. Dara keeps asking if anyone cares or is affected by the change, and Dan gets it, but it not super happy to be without linear attribution!
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Mar 31, 2023 • 41min
#75 Learning design in analytics (with Phil Gomm and Tony Reeves @ Ding)
Show notes and full transcript is available at https://bit.ly/3Zt69Xm.
00:15 - Intro
03:33 - Topic
37:88 - Wind down
39:59 - Outro
This week Dan and Dara are joined by Phil Gomm and Tony Reeves from Ding, a learning design consultancy. Ding and Measurelab have been working together over the last few months to build out a new Google Analytics 4 (GA4) learning experience, which has take the form of the 6-week GA4 Immersion cohort training course recently launched. They discuss the question of 'why exactly is learning design?', and how that applies to teaching analytics. They also explore how to design learning experiences with the learner in mind, including multiple formats and mediums, social environments and other aspects to make learning the most effective.
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Mar 24, 2023 • 36min
#74 The UPDATE framework for server-side GTM migrations (with Matthew Hooson @ Measurelab)
Show notes and full transcript is available at https://bit.ly/3lCoUcR.
00:15 - Intro
02:16 - Topic
33:28 - Wind down
34:36 - Outro
This week Dan and Dara are joined by Matthew Hooson from Measurelab to talk about server-side Google Tag Manager (sGTM) and the UPDATE framework to best migrate over to server-side tagging. Hear Matthew talk to Dara and Dan about what he and the team have learned from doing many sGTM migrations, and what the top things to consider when migrating are.
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Mar 17, 2023 • 36min
#73 Starting a product analytics consultancy (with Bhavik Patel @ CAUSL)
Show notes and full transcript is available at https://bit.ly/3ll3GAc.
00:15 - Intro
04:57 - Topic
33:43 - Wind down
34:56 - Outro
This week Dan and Dara are joined by their first returning guest Bhav Patel! Bhav has been on a journey since the last time they were on the podcast, starting the product measurement consultancy CAUSL and running more CRAP Talks. Hear from Bhav what it's like starting a consultancy in the data world, working in the open, and of course, whether or not Google Analytics 4 (GA4) is disrupting the product analytics space.
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Mar 10, 2023 • 35min
#72 A conversation on BigQuery and GA4 (with Johan van de Werken @ GA4BigQuery.com and New10)
Show notes and full transcript is available at https://bit.ly/3Jsfn1b.
00:15 - Intro
02:19 - Topic
31:50 - Wind down
33:44 - Outro
This week Dan and Dara are joined by Johan van de Werken, creator of GA4BigQuery.com. They chat about how GA4BigQuery started and where it's going, how Johan moved from letters to numbers, how the GA4 BigQuery course on Simmer was designed and developed, and we hear about his punk rock cover band!
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Mar 3, 2023 • 31min
#71 The Universal Analytics demise timeline and GA4’s latest updates
Show notes and full transcript is available at http://bit.ly/3y6y3Nn.
00:15 - Intro
02:55 - Topic
27:36 - Wind down
30:03 - Outro
This week Dan and Dara are once again running solo, and this time bringing back up the Universal Analytics (UA) sunset timeline and when you should have Google Analytics 4 (GA4) in place by. Spoiler alert, it's asap! They chat about how it can take two to three months to migrate to GA4, and what to consider in the process. They also run through the 2023 GA4 updates, no matter how underwhelming...
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Feb 10, 2023 • 40min
#70 Building dashboards like a pro
In this podcast, Dan and Dara discuss their experiences in building automated dashboards, offering tips on scoping and planning, measuring usefulness, and avoiding common missteps. They also explore the limitations of dashboards for analysis work and the benefits of exploring source data. Additionally, they delve into the challenges of visualizing data in Google Analytics and Looker Studio, and the importance of gathering feedback for dashboards.

Feb 3, 2023 • 32min
#69 Dry your eyes, say your goodbyes, another one dies, it’s Google Optimize!
Show notes and full transcript is available at https://bit.ly/3Jztgex.
00:15 - Intro
01:05 - Topic
27:50 - Wind down
31:21 - Outro
This week Dan and Dara talk about the very recent announcement that Google Optimize will be sunset on 30th September 2023. No exceptions, no extensions, it'll be gone for good for everyone - the free and paid versions! They discuss how this will affect the analytics and CRO industries, and whether Optimizely or VWO will be suitable replacements for the current Opimize users. They also think about the future of Google's proposition and whether the GMP will be rolled into the GCP.
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Jan 27, 2023 • 42min
#68 The untapped potential of neurodiverse talent in data and tech (with Marc Crawley @ Diversita)
Show notes and full transcript is available at https://bit.ly/40a19Iv.
00:15 - Intro
06:02 - Topic
40:26 - Wind down
41:16 - Outro
This week Dan and Dara are joined by Marc Crawley @ Diversita, a recruitment organisation that specialises in advising and empowering neurodivergent data, technology and IT professionals. Neurodiversity is everywhere, with around 20% of the UK considered neurodivergent. Dan, Dara and Marc discuss what accommodations can be put in place for neurodiverse candidates in the recruitment process, as well as the concept of masking and disclosure.
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Jan 13, 2023 • 38min
#67 GA4 features we need to see in 2023 (with Usman Qureshi @ Spiralyze)
Show notes and full transcript is available at https://bit.ly/3H2kWSM.
00:15 - Intro
01:55 - Topic
35:31 - Wind down
36:44 - Outro
This week Dan is joined by Usman Qureshi from the CRO agency Spiralyze to discuss all the GA4 features that they need to see in 2023. They reviewed episode #21 of The Measure Pod on what we needed to see from GA4 in 2022, see what actually happened and then what GA4 needs to release (or fix!) this year. 2023 is the year that Universal Analytics (UA) is sunset for the majority of people, so this is the year to polish GA4 up to the max!
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