

Destination Marketing Podcast
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Mar 8, 2022 • 12min
186: Expanding Your Knowledge as a Destination Marketer
In this week's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam goes in-depth on his trip to Dallas, Texas for Destinations International's CDME Training. Listen as Adam discusses the structure of the training, the important lessons he learned, and the people he met along the way.
"I know that there’s gaps in my knowledge and that’s why I wanted to make sure that I went and did this training. I wanted to not only get better on my own in understanding the ins and outs of not only what it takes to market a destination but also what’s happening on the other side of the table.” - Adam Stoker
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Mar 1, 2022 • 39min
185: When Your Destination is the Headquarters of an Election with Elizabeth Keller
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast Adam is joined by Elizabeth Keller, Director at the Delaware Office of Tourism. Listen to hear what it was like advertising the home state of President Joe Biden during the election and how she was able to ask another DMO for advice. Other topics include the benefits of being a young professional in the tourism industry and how to effectively market a destination with a limited budget.
"Data can be paralyzing sometimes. You get overwhelmed. If you let it tell the narrative and tell you where to go, then your five hundred thousand dollar budget can make a big impact." -Elizabeth Keller
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Feb 22, 2022 • 37min
184: A Creative Approach by Spokane Washington with Jamie Rand
Jamie Rand joins us in this week's episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk all about some of the things that his destination has been working on over the past several months. Learn how they were able to use a Winnie the Pooh analogy to drive their creative messaging, utilize Carvertise to spread awareness of their campaign and take advantage of data resources to better inform their stakeholders.
"I think it's a universal truth that difficult times and struggle is a creative space that usually yields results. It's in that where we have to be more creative. We have to figure out solutions and I think it grew our creativity for sure." -Jamie Rand
Visit Spokane
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Feb 15, 2022 • 32min
183: Introducing Connect Travel’s 2022 Conference Lineup with Will Seccombe
Will Seccombe is back on this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about all of the Connect Travel events coming up in 2022. He and Adam talk through what each event will entail and why each one is important to note as destination marketers are planning their schedule for this year.
"Like any of these conferences, learn from others that have done it for a long time. Learn from others that have really cool ideas and go out and develop a plan. Build relationships that are going to help you execute on that plan." -Will Seccombe
Connect Travel Events
The Travel Vertical Podcast
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Feb 8, 2022 • 47min
182: The Deeper Meaning of Tourism with Jessica Merrill
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, join Adam and Jessica Merrill as they talk about the effects of tourism on communities and why destination marketing is often misunderstood by stakeholders. Learn how Jessica got into the industry, as well as how she has been able to transform her destination with the help of Relic over the past year and a half.
"You're providing a better quality of life for the residents even though you're talking to tourists. The ultimate goal at the end of the day is to provide more of the economic impact that then transitions into a better quality of life for the community and the residents." -Jessica Merrill
Discover Davis County
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Feb 1, 2022 • 32min
181: Mapping Destinations with AJ Brau
Join Adam on this week's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast as he chats with AJ Brau, co-founder and CEO of Wander, about some of the intricacies that come with creating maps for destinations. Listen to learn more about Wander and how destinations are using this new innovative platform to help visitors not only navigate their destination but also experience it in new ways.
"People say a picture is worth a thousand words but a map is worth a million. I don't think there is a quicker way for someone to understand what a destination has to offer them and imagine themselves there." -AJ Brau
Wander Maps
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 25, 2022 • 39min
180: Hosting Podcasts for Destinations with Natasha Lye
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam talks to Natasha Lye, PR and Content Specialist at Relic and host of the Inner Coastal Podcast, The Hola Laredo Podcast and Find Your Flow in MoCo. Listen to learn the ins and outs of hosting a podcast and hear some of the things Natasha has learned through hosting over the past two years.
"I was worried about making the guest uncomfortable because I wouldn't know how to carry the conversation. What am I supposed to say? How do I lead this conversation? How am I supposed to be this expert when I've never done this before?"
- Natasha Lye
The Inner Coastal Podcast
The Hola Laredo Podcast
Find Your Flow in MoCo
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 18, 2022 • 35min
179: Driving Value to Your Stakeholders with Carvertise
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam is joined in the studio by Greg Star and Mark Ligos from Carvertise. Listen to learn more about how Carvertise is making traditional media more accessible to small and medium-size destinations, as well as how destinations can utilize it to help increase the value of the DMO to its stakeholders.
"You can't drive a billboard into the parking lot of an Eagles and Giants game and interact with the fans." -Mark Ligos
Carvertise
Tourism Media Mayhem
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 11, 2022 • 40min
178: Building Brands for Destinations with Justin Flack
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam talks with Relic's Executive Creative Director Justin Flack about the importance of branding in destination marketing. Listen to learn why your destination needs a brand strategy as well as what you can do to get started on building one.
"You can create a brand but you can never determine what that brand is in the eyes of your visitors or your consumer. You can only influence what they think and everything after that is built on the experience that they have with you or in your destination." -Justin Flack
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 4, 2022 • 30min
177: 2022 New Year's Resolutions for Destination Marketers
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam shares some of his 2022 New Years' resolutions for destination marketers. Learn how you can apply these principles in your destination and how to strengthen your marketing plan in the year to come.
"Take a step back and think about what your overarching strategy is. Why do we do what we do?" - Adam Stoker
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.


