
The Curbsiders Teach
Curbsiders Teach is THE internal medicine podcast for all things medical education. We use expert interviews to inspire the next generation of medical educators by providing listeners with teaching pearls, practice-changing knowledge, and a learning objective-based dosing of Edutainment (medical education, made entertaining). Season 3 of this weekly mini-series will air every Tuesday starting April 4, 2023 on our website or wherever you get your podcasts!
We are so excited to bring you this new series in the Curbsiders Family focusing on medical education. Molly Heublein, MD and Era Kryzhanovskaya, MD are your hosts for the Curbsiders Teach- they are Clinician Educators with a passion for teaching. Whether you precept students, teach small groups, are involved in curricular design, or give CME lectures, we think you’ll find valuable skills. We have the pleasure of interviewing a variety of amazing experts in topics ranging from bedside teaching, feedback conversations, learner mental health, and time-variable competency based medical education. We can’t wait to share their expertise with you!
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Latest episodes

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Jun 5, 2024 • 1h 6min
43: #42 Learner Autonomy With Ben Kinnear, MD MEd
Ben Kinnear, a MedPeds hospitalist and PhD candidate, dives into the crucial theme of learner autonomy in medical education. He shares practical tips for fostering independence while addressing the challenges of bias and disparities in supervision. Kinnear emphasizes the importance of allowing controlled failures as a means of growth. He also explores the psychological factors behind motivation, detailing how trust and support can enhance clinical learning experiences. Listeners will gain insights on balancing autonomy with adequate supervision and supporting diverse learners.

May 29, 2024 • 52min
42: #41 Navigating Tough-to-Metabolize Feedback: Strategies and Key Concepts for Educational Leaders With Dana Sall MD, MeD and Allison DeKosky MD
Join Dr. Allison DeKosky, a hospitalist educator and medical director, and Dr. Dana Sall, a program director passionate about medical education, as they tackle the art of receiving tough feedback. They discuss emotional valence in feedback scenarios and the importance of radical transparency in leadership. The conversation covers extreme ownership, maintaining a growth mindset, and fostering psychological safety within teams. With practical tips for handling complaints and creating a constructive environment, this dialogue is a treasure trove for educational leaders.

May 22, 2024 • 49min
41: #40 Values Driven Leadership with Alliance Leader Dr Lisa Willett
Be inspired by Alliance for Academic Internal Medicine Leader, Lisa Willett MD, as we discuss her leadership journey, tips for early career leaders in health professions education, and wisdom to live by as a leader. Push yourself to speak up confidently without arrogance, focus on your mission, and be humble while supporting your team.
This is part of a special 4 episode series we have this season on leadership in academic medicine supported by AAIM!
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Lisa Willett, MD is a Professor of Medicine at University of Alabama, Birmingham where she works as a hospitalist and serves as Vice Chair for Education and Faculty Development in the Department of Medicine. She was the past Program Director for 12 years of Tinsley Harrison Internal Medicine program at UAB and has served as past president of APDIM.
Show Segments
0:00 Intro, get to know our guest
7:30 Dr Willett’s Leadership Journey
10:47: Leading through Disruptive Changes
13:56 Values-based Leadership
17:38 Humility and Excellence without Ego
20:26 Tips for Building your Leadership Skills
22:24 Mentorship and observation
26:22 Formal Leadership Training
28:55 There’s never one way to do something
35:23 Getting through difficulty as a Leader
36:33 More Tips for Early-mid Career Leaders
43:46 Take home points
47:46 Outro
Credits
Producer: Molly Heublein MD
Script: Era Kryzhanovskaya MD
Show notes/infographics/cover art: Molly Heublein MD
Hosts: Era Kryzhanovskaya MD ; Molly Heublein MD
Guest: Lisa Willett MD
Technical support: Podpaste
Theme Music: MorsyMusic

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May 15, 2024 • 56min
40: #39 Live from AIMW24: Artificial Intelligence in Health Professions Education With Dylan Fortman MD, Adam Rodman MD, and Laurah Turner PhD
In this session, Dr. Dylan Fortman, an expert in health professions education, alongside Dr. Adam Rodman and Dr. Laurah Turner, dive deep into the transformative role of AI in medical training. They discuss the fundamentals of AI technologies and their applications in educational contexts. The conversation highlights both the promises and pitfalls of AI, including concerns about bias and the need for human oversight. They also explore innovative strategies for integrating AI while emphasizing the importance of maintaining a human touch in healthcare education.

May 8, 2024 • 39min
39: #38 Pearls from AIMW24 With guests Carolyn Chan MD MHS, Shelly-Ann Fluker MD FACP, and Jen Olenik MD With the Alliance for Academic Internal Medicine
Join us as we get to sit down in person with guests Carolyn Chan MD MHS, Shelly-Ann Fluker MD FACP, and Jen Olenik MD to discuss pearls from this amazing conference. Listen in as we highlight innovative educational techniques, including gamification and other strategies to engage learners. Pick up some juicy pearls from our favorite workshops on feedback literacy, reducing bias in didactics and assessment, remediation in clinical reasoning, and addressing professionalism with a growth mindset!

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May 1, 2024 • 55min
38: #37 Teaching Evidence Based Medicine With Dr. Nicholas Maldonado
Join us as we learn a practical approach to teaching the basics of evidence based medicine on the wards or in clinic with Nicholas Maldonado MD, FACEP. He talks us through the 5As framework, with a deeper dive into how to help our learners ask clinical questions and acquire the answers they are seeking in the medical literature using the 5S pyramid.
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Credit
Producer/ Script: Charlotte Chaiklin MD
Show notes/CME/Graphics: Molly Heublein MD
Hosts: Charlotte Chaiklin, Era Kryzhanovskaya MD, Molly Heublein MD
Peer Reviewer: Zoe Kopp MD and Keith Dickerson MD
Guest: Nicholas Maldonado MD, FACEP
Technical support: Podpaste
Theme Music: MorsyMusic

Jun 28, 2023 • 1h 7min
37: #36 Launching a Clinician Educator Career With Drs. Sue Farrell and Caroline Okorie
Guests Dr. Sue Farrell, Harvard University and Dr. Caroline Okorie, Stanford University, discuss careers as clinician educators. They share their own roadmap for advancement in academic medicine while reflecting on the concept of ikigai. We review tips for success for academic clinicians across the spectrum- how to create your strategic plan, think about advancement, and integrate scholarship into your work.
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Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner/ Best piece of advice
Case #1 from Kashlak Memorial Hospital
Learning from senior faculty vs mid-level
Ce vs cE
Tips to building your early career
Ikigai/ Roadmap to becoming a CE
What our guests wish they knew from the beginning
You don’t always have to say yes
Mid-Career Educator
ACGME CE Milestones
Strategic Plan
Dr Okorie’s Personal Path
What she has learned through this process
Advancement/Promotion
Bias and Equity in Promotion
Scholarship
Take Home Points
Outro
Credits
Script, Guest Selection: Frances Ue MD MPH
Infographic, Cover Art: Megan Connor MD
Hosts: Frances Ue MD MPH, Era Kryzhanovskaya MD, Molly Heublein MD
Show Notes/CME: Molly Heublein MD
Editor: (audio materials) Podpaste; Frances Ue MD MPH, Era Kryzhanovskaya MD (written materials)
Guests: Sue Farrell MD EdM, Caroline Okorie MD MPH

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Jun 20, 2023 • 1h 6min
36: #35 Learner As Educator With Dr Travis Crook
Dr Travis Crook (Vanderbilt) shares his passion for teaching on this special Cribsiders-Teach Collab on the learner as educator. We cover the continuum of health professions learners from undergraduate to graduate, including both direct teaching skills along with educational theory important for a career as a clinician educator. Whether you are looking for practical tips to get started with one on one teaching opportunities with your learners or want to create a formal “learner as educator” program at your institution, you’ll get valuable pearls.
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Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner/ Best Piece of Advice
Picks of the Week
Case from Kashlak Children’s
Academy of Resident Educators
Continuum of Professional Pathway from Medical Student to Attending
Medical Students
Building Excitement/Enthusiasm
Barriers to Teaching as a Learner
Resources to Build a Learner as Teacher Program
Interprofessionalism
Identifying Goals
More resources to build a Program
Case Continued
Supporting a Learner directly to Teach
Teaching with Intention
Peer Mentorship
What is the Evidence?
Adult Learners
Teaching Skills (vs Knowledge)- Simpson’s Taxonomy
Supporting Learner-Teacher via Feedback
Take home points
Outro
Credits
Script: Cleo Rochat
Show Notes/CME: Molly Heublein MD
Infographic & Cover Art: Paige Spata
Hosts: Era Kryzhanovskaya MD ; Chris Chiu MD; Cleo Rochat
Editor: (audio materials) PodPaste; Cleo Rochat (written materials)
Guest: Travis Crook MD

Jun 6, 2023 • 51min
35: #34: Science of Learning with Dr. Cindy Nebel
Listen as we discuss the Science of Learning with our guest expert Cindy Nebel, PhD from Vanderbilt University. In this episode, we review the process of learning and highlight six tips educators can use to improve retention and understanding. Whether you’re an educator looking for new ways to elevate your instructional strategies or you're a student seeking to maximize learning, this episode brings a wealth of knowledge that you won't regret (or forget)!
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Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner/book recommendation
Kashlak Case
Origin of the Science of Learning
How we Learn
Six Techniques to Improve Learning
Concrete Examples
Spaced Practice
Elaboration
Interleaving
Dual Coding
Retrieval Practice
Practical Approaches to using these Tips
Self Efficacy
Transfer of Knowledge
Take Home Points
Outro
Credits
Hosts/show notes: Era Kryzhanovskaya MD ; Molly Heublein MD ; Andrew DeLaat DO
Script/Producer: Molly Heublein MD; Andrew DeLaat DO
Infographic/Cover Art: Andrew DeLaat DO
CME: Era Kryzhanovskaya MD
Editor: Molly Heublein MD (written materials); Podpaste (audio editing)
Guest: Cindy Nebel PhD

May 30, 2023 • 48min
34: #33 Leading the Way: Navigating Transitions in Medical Education with Dr. Michelle Kittleson
Michelle Kittleson, MD (@MKittlesonMD) drops pearls from her new book, Mastering the Art of Patient Care, around how to be a leader and navigate transitions in health profession education. She shares relatable anecdotes and valuable tips on how to prepare for leadership, navigate uncertainty, and build your mentor cabinet.
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Dr Michelle Kittleson is Professor of Medicine at Cedars-Sinai and Director of Education in Heart Failure and Transplantation at the Smidt Heart Institute. Dr. Kittleson is Deputy Editor of the Journal of Heart and Lung Transplantation, on writing committees for the 2020 Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy Guidelines and the 2022 HF Guidelines, and on the Board of Directors for the Heart Failure Society of America. Her essays have appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine, Annals of Internal Medicine, and JAMA Cardiology and poems in JAMA and Annals of Internal Medicine. Her book, Mastering the Art of Patient Care, is available from Springer publishing.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner/ Best piece of advice
Picks of the Week
Case from Kashlak
Leadership development in medicine
Senior Resident Transition
Kittleson’s Rounds
Encouraging Healthy Debate
Kindness as a Leader
Mentor Support
Dealing with Uncertainty
Tips to reduce micromanaging
Take home Points
Outro
Credits
Writer: John Ong, DO
CME: John Ong, DO
Infographic: Charlotte Chaiklin, MD
Cover Art: Charlotte Chaiklin, MD
Hosts: Era Kryzhanovskaya MD; Molly Heublein MD; John Ong DO
Show Notes: John Ong DO; Era Kryzhanovskaya MD
Editor: (audio) podpaste (written materials) Molly Heublein MD
Guest: Michelle Kittleson MD