

Patina'd Podcast
Podcast Lair Network | Kenny Hill Sr.
The Patina'd Podcast is about the earned wisdom found in pain. It's about chasing failure, catching it, and using that as opportunity. It's about scar-tissue and sinew. It's about stretch marks and dented fenders, and refusing to hide them. It's about pushing our insecurities and shame to the forefront, not behind us. Instead of seeing rust as something that compromises a structures integrity, we chose to see it as the grit that builds character.
There are many shows that highlight the human spirit. They're great, listen to them! This show does this too, but with people who are your neighbor
There are many shows that highlight the human spirit. They're great, listen to them! This show does this too, but with people who are your neighbor
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Jan 17, 2025 • 1h 54min
Ep 32: From Despair to Having Purpose: One Mile at a Time | Sachin Latti
Kenny sits down with Sachin Latti, an individual committed to turning personal despair into a mission of service and resilience. Sachin shares his journey from combating anxiety and depression to setting an ambitious goal of running across Canada to raise awareness of mental illness and funds for veterans and first responders. Through candid discussions, they delve into Sachin’s background, his transformative journey, and the challenges he has faced and overcome. This episode emphasizes the power of setting massive goals, staying disciplined, and the profound impact of being of service to others.00:00 Introduction 04:27 Sachin's Background and Career Journey07:25 Challenges and Reflections on Mental Health16:00 Finding Purpose and Overcoming Adversity34:15 Running for a Cause and Social Media Impact36:51 Meeting Shawn Taylor37:42 Running Journey Begins40:27 Lessons from Cameron Haynes41:49 Pandemic and Social Media Influence43:25 Pushing Limits and Finding Purpose46:30 Mental Health and Running01:04:39 Running Across Canada01:12:50 Embracing Challenges for Personal Growth01:13:54 The Essence of Service and Purpose01:18:30 The Role of Discipline and Focus01:20:11 Achievements and Future Goals01:36:00 Emotional Reflections and Joy01:48:55 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans
Sach's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sach.in.motion/
Donate to Help Service Members struggling with mental illness: https://form.123formbuilder.com/6647897/sach-in-motion-donation-form
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.

Jan 1, 2025 • 1h 47min
Ep 31: Top Decathlete Eats ONLY MEAT! | Ryan Talbot
Dive into the inspiring story of Ryan Talbot, a decorated @MSUSpartanAthletics Decathlete, as he shares his journey of athletic achievements, and the life-changing benefits of clean eating, like the Carnivore Diet. Ryan discusses the mental and physical challenges he faced, including overcoming injuries and the importance of tailored training. Tune in to learn about his mindset and strategies that have placed him near the top of the Decathalon stage.
00:00 Introduction
05:10 Ryan's Background and Early Athletic Pursuits
08:03 Discovering and Excelling in the Decathlon
20:45 Training and Adapting in College
23:38 The Importance of Individualized Coaching
26:39 Balancing Hard Work and Smart Training
42:05 The Carnivore Diet and Its Benefits
56:08 Fasting and Endurance
01:00:27 Dietary Experiments and Adaptations
01:14:39 Sobriety and Social Perceptions
01:23:15 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Health
01:28:52 Natural Healing and Mental Health
01:38:19 Future Goals and Training
01:44:32 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Ryan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_ryan_talbot_/
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
Song Credits:
Two in the Back https://app.sessions.blue/browse/track/273343
The Stone Mansion https://app.sessions.blue/browse/track/238066
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.

Dec 11, 2024 • 2h 13min
Ep 30: Years of Trauma Made Me Better | Seb Lavoie
Join host Kenny Hill in an engaging conversation with Seb Lavoie, a retired Sergeant Major of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and former Canadian Armed Forces member. Seb shares his compelling story, from being born to a young mother and facing relentless bullying, to developing resilience and overcoming significant challenges. Seb emphasizes the importance of seeking adversity, introspection, and holistic personal growth. Delve into Seb's life experiences and expert insights on building resilience, maintaining discipline, and navigating life's hardships.
00:00 Episode Trailor
04:24 Introducing Seb LaVoie
05:38 Seb's Career Highlights
08:09 A Journey Through Hardship
18:10 Embracing Challenges and Growth
30:10 The Decision to Amputate
34:32 Life After Amputation
41:40 Facing Adversity Head-On
43:37 Understanding the Flaws of Memory
44:11 The Complexity of Mental Wellness
44:52 Taking Action with Intent
45:55 Building Resilience and Overcoming Victimhood
47:55 The Importance of Introspection
48:55 Motivation vs. Self-Discipline
53:46 The Role of Hard Work and Responsibility
01:00:37 Adapting and Flexing for Mental Toughness
01:02:59 The Value of Failure and Resilience
01:19:39 The Rise of Spirituality and Religion
01:28:30 The Terrifying Shift in Education
01:30:05 Controversial Topics and Societal Changes
01:36:49 The Role of Neuroscience in Resilience
01:38:38 Manifestation and the Power of Belief
01:41:43 The Importance of Critical Thinking
01:42:28 Practical Examples and Daily Decisions
02:01:58 Understanding Negative Bias and Perspective
02:08:06 Concluding Thoughts and Future Projects
Seb's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/slavccmdr/
The Collective Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@the_collective_yt/streams
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
Song Credits:
Two in the Back https://app.sessions.blue/browse/track/273343
The Stone Mansion https://app.sessions.blue/browse/track/238066
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.

Nov 23, 2024 • 1h 53min
Ep 29: D1 Scholarships from EVERY MAJOR School After ONE YEAR of Training | Israel Oloyede
Israel Oloyede shares his extraordinary life story on The Patina'd Podcast. From growing up without his biological father to finding solace in his grandfather's guidance, Israel's journey is one of resilience, faith, and exceptional athletic achievements. Whether you're seeking inspiration or curious about elite athletics, this episode has something for everyone.
00:00 Introduction and Personal Background
04:15 Interview with Israel Oloyede
09:31 Israel's Upbringing and Family
15:14 High School Sports and Mentorship
29:00 College Football and Training
34:23 Spiritual Struggles and Realizations
39:35 Rediscovering Faith and Routine
41:08 A Life-Changing Dream
42:00 The Journey into Track and Field
42:38 Meeting Influential Coaches
44:35 Training and Dedication
47:15 Competing and Achieving Milestones
52:53 The Weight vs. Hammer Throw
56:45 Breakthrough Performance and Recognition
01:08:33 Offers and Opportunities
01:16:01 Reflecting on Early Achievements
01:17:28 Navigating the Challenges of COVID-19
01:18:54 Striving for Excellence in Athletics
01:21:34 Overcoming Personal and Professional Hurdles
01:23:19 A New Beginning at GCU
01:26:31 Injury and Recovery
01:31:39 Preparing for the 2024 Season
01:39:36 Balancing Faith and Athletics
01:48:09 Closing Thoughts and Reflections
Israel's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/israelthrows/
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.

Nov 11, 2024 • 40min
Ep 28: Green Beret, Longhorns Long Snapper, Actor & Director | Nate Boyer
Nate Boyer is an inspirational figure with a remarkable life journey from relief work in the Darfur, serving in the military as a Special Forces Green Beret, to walking-on to the Texas Longhorns football team and later joining the Seattle Seahawks. Nate shares about his transition to filmmaking, and co-founding the MVP (Merging Vets & Players) program.
00:00 Introduction
03:21 Interview with Nate Boyer Begins
04:17 Nate Boyer's Military and Sports Career
08:42 Challenges and Resilience
27:33 MVP: Merging Vets and Players
32:01 Navigating Political Chaos
37:03 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Nate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nateboyer37/
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.

Oct 26, 2024 • 1h 28min
Ep 27: Who's That Olympian | Joe Brown
Join host Kenny on a captivating journey through the inspiring stories of elite athletes and everyday heroes on The Patina'd Podcast. This episode features Joseph Brown, an athlete with 1 scholarship offer out of high school, turned Olympian. Joe shares his path to success and the challenges he overcame. He delves deep into overcoming self-doubt by utilizing visualization and other techniques that he attributes to his success. Tune in to be inspired by his resilience, dedication, and the unwavering support systems that have fueled his dream.
00:00 Introduction/Trailer
04:28 Interview with Olympian Joe Brown
06:20 Joe's Athletic Background and Growth
09:02 *The One Week Challenge*
11:02 High School Sports and College Recruitment
18:08 College Competitions and Realizations
25:00 Qualifying for the Olympics
28:14 Olympic Trials and Final Throw
40:28 Experiencing the Olympics
43:09 Mental Preparation and Visualization Techniques
43:33 Competition Day Nerves and Strategies
49:45 Handling Disappointment and Reflecting on Performance
50:11 Post-Competition Reflections and Future Goals
56:54 Personal Stories and Overcoming Challenges
01:15:43 The Role of Support Systems
01:25:39 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Joe's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joethethrower/Support Joe further by checking out his wife's content: https://www.instagram.com/mooyahyah/Find more from Joe here: https://beacons.ai/joethethrower?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAabJFQJtUpqL297CFdhKFidFHMCmVFX09D2oC6EzoFvdbsMXrI-Vib7CKnI_aem_IdEnBdwJnbQHsArcPq1wvg
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.

Oct 16, 2024 • 1h 12min
Ep 26: "Running SUCKS" | 24-Hour USA Team Runner Jake Jackson
Join host Kenny Hill in this episode of the Patina'd Podcast as he delves deep into the life story of ultramarathon runner Jake Jackson. Discover Jake's journey, as a UPS driver and world-class runner for the 24-Hour US National Team. Jake opens up about his past struggles with health and how he discovered his passion for running, leading him to break records and achieve remarkable feats. Jake shares his insights on the importance of setting ambitious goals, pushing boundaries, and the realities of competitive running. This episode is a testament to the resilience and determination required to chase one's dreams, even if it means stepping into the unknown.
00:00 Introduction to Jake Jackson
04:18 Jake Jackson's UPS Journey
07:36 Running and Recovery Challenges
25:44 The Cocodona 250 Experience
29:06 Jake's Upbringing and Early Influences
32:56 Family Support and Running Passion
39:01 "Balancing" Family and Running
40:33 The Impact of Role Models
43:46 Running as Therapy
45:32 The Ultra Running Community
51:52 Pushing Limits and Setting Goals
01:05:41 The Future of Ultra Running
01:08:26 Training and Upcoming Races
01:09:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Jake's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ultrajakejackson/
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.

Oct 3, 2024 • 1h 48min
Ep 25: Discovering PURPOSE & Achieving EXCELLENCE | Shaun Taylor
Join host Kenny Hill as he sits down with Shaun Taylor, a distinguished military veteran and motivational speaker. Shaun shares his powerful journey from overcoming severe childhood bullying to excelling as an Army Reconnaissance Sniper and a member of Joint Task Force 2, comparable to SEAL Team 6. He delves into struggles with imposter syndrome, the drive for continual self-improvement, and the wisdom gained through embracing failure. Shuan offers profound insights on resilience, finding one's purpose, and pushing limits in various aspects of life, including the military and ultra-endurance racing. This conversation is packed with advice on personal growth, mentorship, and living a life without regrets. Tune in for an inspiring episode that highlights the importance of struggle, hard work, and discovering your 'why' to achieve meaningful success.00:00 Introduction/ Trailor03:53 Meet Shaun Taylor: A Man of Many Accomplishments16:25 The Impact of Bullying and Family Tragedy21:32 Pushing Limits and Embracing Failure56:51 Embracing Failure for Growth59:30 The Tree of Suffering: A Personal Challenge01:03:11 Social Media as a Tool for Inspiration01:04:17 Navigating Military Experiences and Public Perception01:07:18 Addressing Mental Health in the Military01:16:48 Finding Your Why: A Path to Purpose01:37:28 The Importance of Mentorship and Preparation01:41:58 Final Thoughts and Reflections
Shaun's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shauntaylors1/The Collective Podcast Website: https://tr.ee/BOWwxm566p
The Collective Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@the_collective_yt/streams
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
Song Credits:
Two in the Back https://app.sessions.blue/browse/track/273343
Hash Out https://app.sessions.blue/browse/track/273344
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.

Sep 21, 2024 • 1h 31min
Ep 24: 60-Year-Old Recovering METH ADDICT Turned 200-Mile Ultrarunner | Catra Corbett
Joining Kenny in this episode is Ultrarunner and author Catra Corbett. Catra opens up about her struggles with addiction and trauma, sharing how running and endurance sports became her path to healing and personal growth. She touches on the mental and physical challenges of ultrarunning, the importance of community support, and her marriage to climber Ammon McNeely. Don't miss this heartfelt conversation about the resilience of the human spirit.
00:00 Introduction/ Trailor
01:07 Overcoming Addiction Through Running
04:46 Catra Corbett's Running Achievements
08:08 Challenges and Resilience
14:37 Health and Longevity Concerns
40:22 Childhood and Early Life
47:27 Struggles with Addiction and Family Dynamics
49:07 The Arrest and Legal Consequences
51:10 Path to Recovery and Therapy
54:22 Embracing Sobriety and Running
01:00:06 Challenges in Early Sobriety
01:19:51 Marriage to Ammon McNeely and Personal Growth
01:29:14 Conclusion and Reflections
Catra's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dirtdiva333/
Her Website: https://catracorbett.com/
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
Song Credits:
Two in the Back https://app.sessions.blue/browse/track/273343
Hash Out https://app.sessions.blue/browse/track/273344
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.

Sep 12, 2024 • 1h 6min
Ep 23: Man on 'Borrowed Time' talks PERSEVERANCE | Steve Harwell
In this episode of The Patina'd Podcast, host Kenny Hill interviews his Uncle Steve Harwell, a man who has exemplified resilience and faith throughout his life. Born with severe health issues, "Uncle" Steve overcame significant odds, defeating grim diagnoses and living a life rich in service to God. Steve shares his personal battles with pancreatic cancer, and the importance of believing in God's plans. Tune in to hear about Steve's journey from a challenging birth to becoming a devoted father, husband, and minister. This episode is a testament to faith, resilience, and the power of God.
00:00 Introduction: The Scars of Life
05:10 Meet Uncle Steve
08:32 Overcoming Early Life Challenges
18:29 Finding Faith and Family Transformation
29:38 Resilience and Bullying
36:29 Growth and Education
36:53 Missionary Work and Meeting Veronica
39:55 Family Life and Raising Michael
42:55 Ministry and Faith
45:09 Cancer Diagnosis
56:01 Reflections on Life and Legacy
01:01:10 Closing Thoughts
The show's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patinad_podcast/
Kenny's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenny_from_recoveryhill/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Ft2j7uhtUdf6Mf6BwGSnN?si=3dd51ceee25145de
Recovery Hill Website: https://www.recoveryhill.info/
The show's name "Patina'd Podcast:"
Most people are attracted to antiqued things, whether it's furniture, vehicles, or music. There is something about age and weathering that draws us in. Many will copout with buying "vintage" looking items, but wishing they had the authentic originals; The piece with 100 years of patina that can't be replicated.
This also happens in the human experience! There are people who choose to appear wise without the experience to back it up; They offer to themselves the phony version. Others will allow misery to make them better, wiser, and Patina'd. This show is to highlight the others.
*Disclaimer* By giving the interviewee freedom to share their story, there may be points of view expressed that Kenny Hill and Recovery Hill do not agree with. But this is their story, their opinions, their advice, and can potentially be very helpful to someone.


