
Mass Appeal
Mass Appeal is a podcast connecting you with the top players in the mobile app economy. App marketing and monetization trends are everywhere, all at once. Our guests break down the winning strategies for how to build apps that monetize, market, and appeal to the masses.
This industry just got noisier! Subscribe and join us every other week as our host Tommy Yannopoulos talks to leaders, CMOs, and CEOs of successful mobile apps. The Mass Appeal podcast is brought to you by adjoe, mobile app monetization and growth specialists. Available on adjoe.io/blog/.
Latest episodes

Mar 26, 2025 • 37min
#28. The Network Effect: How to Grow a Company Organically - Rodney Williams (SoLo Funds)
Questions Rodney answered in this episode:Tell us about your background.How did you go from brand management at P&G to co-founding SoLo Funds?At what point do you realize you’re ready to go full-time into your endeavor?How does SoLo Funds benefit working-class people?How did you grow SoLo Funds to where you are today?What are you looking forward to this year?Timestamp:2:45 Rodney’s entrepreneurial beginnings8:07 From P&G to SoLo Funds19:35 What is SoLo Funds?27:00 The network effect for organic growth32:12 Big things comingMentioned in this Episode:Rodney Williams’s LinkedInSoLo FundsSocial handle: @rodneybwilliams

Mar 12, 2025 • 31min
#27. Building a Loyalty Rewards Coalition with 200+ Brands - Wei Tak “Tuck” Nyou (Loyalty Marketing, Inc)
In this episode, Tommy interviews Wei Tak “Tuck” Nyou, the Senior Manager of Loyalty Marketing at Ponta, a loyalty rewards coalition in Japan with over 200 brands and 120M Japanese members – more than 90 percent of Japan’s population. You’ll learn some of the reservations brands commonly express about joining such coalitions, as well as the value proposition for brands. You’ll also learn Ponta’s perspective on what makes a brand attractive to acquire. Finally, you’ll hear about the challenges and opportunities of expanding their loyalty rewards coalition overseas to Taiwan, Vietnam, and Hawaii, the potential for new verticals, and integrating mobile games with their reward program.Questions Tuck answered in this episode:Can you tell us a little about your background?Why did you want to shift your career from B2B to B2C?Can you tell us about Ponta and Loyalty Marketing?Why would a brand not want to join a loyalty coalition? What are the challenges of getting brands to join Ponta, for example?Is there an element of customer acquisition built into these programs?How do you determine which new brands would be most valuable for you to add to your coalition?Is there anything unique about the loyalty market in Japan? Does that make it difficult to expand into new regions overseas or are there opportunities to expand?Were there any challenges you encountered when you expanded to either Taiwan, Vietnam, or Hawaii?Are there new verticals you’re considering expanding into?Has your team considered integrating mobile games into your rewards program?Timestamp:2:20 Tuck’s professional background7:18 What does Ponta do?11:11 Common fears with loyalty coalitions15:20 Determining what brands to acquire17:24 Ponta research members18:50 Expanding our point system overseas20:23 Challenges to expansion23:01 New verticals26:17 Integrating mobile gamesMentioned in this Episode:Wei Tak “Tuck” Nyou’s LinkedInPonta’s Loyalty Marketing, Inc.Ponta’s Loyalty Marketing, Inc. (in Japanese)

Feb 26, 2025 • 34min
#26. Gamifying Fashion: How BELLEMINT Is Changing the Game for Fashion Lovers - Amanda Lulewicz (Muus Collective)
Questions Amanda answered in this episode:Were you a gamer or what prompted you to take the huge leap from PR to mobile games?What’s been the biggest challenge you’ve faced since joining Muus Collective in your role as Head of Marketing?How are you leveraging partnerships with BELLEMINT? What do you think makes a good partnership with game studios?How are Bellemint users interacting with Revolve?What role do community and social experience play in BELLEMINT?What’s your strategy for UA?Timestamp:5:00 Amanda’s background11:06 Fundraising challenges in Silicon Valley14:50 Approaches to partnerships20:21 Bellemint and Revolve’s partnership25:30 Who are the “gamers”?28:19 UA for fashion gamers and loversMentioned in this Episode:Amanda Lulewicz’s LinkedInMuus Collective

Feb 12, 2025 • 60min
#25. Deconstructing AI for Beginners - Bani Malhotra (Walmart)
It’s no secret: AI has been all the buzz lately. But, what is it, really? In this episode, Tommy talks to Bani Malhotra, the former Senior Director of Product Management for Site Experiences and Omnichannel Personalization at Walmart U.S. eCommerce, who demystifies the many terms we hear related to artificial intelligence, including machine learning, deep learning, LLMs, SLMs, and Generative AI. She covers its many use cases for marketers and product managers to advance efficiency, productivity, creativity, and even business development. She also touches on some of her concerns about the technology regarding its drawbacks. Questions Bani answered in this episode:What was your first foray into a product role from your finance and strategy background, and what was one of the biggest challenges in making that leap?Were you implementing AI to help tackle some of the challenges you faced in your role at Walmart?When does a decision go from a logic tree to AI?How do outlier consumer purchases affect AI predictions?Could you define SLMs and LLMs?Where do you see AI benefiting marketers the most?Do you have any fears of what AI may threaten?Timestamp:2:38 Bani’s background9:58 Bani’s role at Walmart17:42 Use cases of AI for user experiences at Walmart21:10 The difference between heuristics and AI23:52 The spectrum of machine learning28:20 AI model confidence scoring31:10 What is AI? Defining AI-related terms41:00 Benefits of AI for marketers54:45 Concerns for AIMentioned in this Episode:Bani Malhotra’s LinkedIn

Jan 29, 2025 • 33min
#24. How to Leverage AI for Growth Marketing - Norman Nielsen (Omio)
Questions Norman answered in this episode:Tell us about your background in growth.What is Omio?Do you have localized marketing support in each market? Or are you able to centralize most of what you do in Berlin?What are some of the biggest hurdles you face when penetrating a new market?Why are you a big proponent of AI? How do you use it?What is AI incapable of helping you with today?How is your team leveraging AI around engagement and loyalty?How do you port data into AI models?How do you discern what is a good AI solution from others?How much is this about training your employees how to effectively prompt AI?Timestamp:3:13 Norman’s background8:24 What is Omio?10:03 The future of localization for foreign markets12:18 Hurdles to breaking into new markets14:00 5 ways AI enables his life15:45 Limitations of AI (it’s not creativity)19:15 AI for engagement and loyalty21:55 Tools to port your data into AI Solutions24:29 The 5 foundational AI models25:55 A/B testing AI content and training LLMs28:28 Training your employees to prompt AIMentioned in this Episode:Norman Nielsen’s LinkedInOmioLeaderz of the New School Podcast

Jan 15, 2025 • 39min
#23. Democratizing Mobile Programmatic Advertising for All - Tomás Yacachury (Kayzen)
Questions Tomás answered in this episode:Tell us about how you got into programmatic advertising.Does your mathematics degree still play a role in what you do today?What is Kayzen? And what sets it apart in the marketplace?What does the democratization of programmatic mean to you? And how are you doing it?Do you see ad inventory changing marketing strategies for your customers?Are you seeing creatives being tailored to specific apps?Timestamp:4:32 Tomás’s background8:20 About Kayzen9:53 How we “democratize” programmatic advertising16:00 Kayzen School of Programmatic19:54 What marketers can learn from ad inventory indexes25:45 Customizing creatives to app gameplay27:15 Misconceptions around games for app advertising31:10 Clicks and engagement in programmaticMentioned in this Episode:Tomás Yacachury’s LinkedInKayzenKayzen’s 2024 Mobile Programmatic Inventory IndexCase study: AlbertsonsCase study: Maniko Nails

Jan 1, 2025 • 35min
#22. Walking into Success: Inside the Growth of Macadam - Benjamin Daudignac (Macadam)
Benjamin Daudignac is the co-founder and CEO of Macadam, a European app that pays people to walk. Since its launch two years ago, the app has gained 2 million daily active users. In this episode, Tommy digs into Benjamin’s entrepreneurial journey creating Macadam, the challenges Macadam faced coming to market, and the strategies they use to keep app users engaged—and walking more! Questions Benjamin answered in this episode:What brought you to Barcelona?Why escape Paris?Where did the idea for Macadam originate? Tell us about the story of starting it.What was your biggest challenge in getting this product into the market and having it adopted by consumers?How do you leverage the community you’re growing within your app to deliver more engagement?How are you thinking about keeping users engaged in the future?How do you decide where to expand your business?Timestamp:3:08 Choosing an environment for entrepreneurship10:07 Ben’s entrepreneurial start14:27 Macadam’s origin story19:15 Bringing Macadam to market22:12 Leveraging community24:20 Gamifying walking to drive engagement29:32 Considering where to expandMentioned in this Episode:Benjamin Daudignac’s LinkedInMacadam

Dec 11, 2024 • 38min
#21. Holiday Season Insights for Mobile App Advertising - Seema Shah (Sensor Tower)
Questions Seema answered in this episode:Do you have a sense of why a platform like Sensor Tower gets labeled as “alternative” data?What attracted you to pivoting to the mobile space, for a company like Sensor Tower?I assume the most resurrected users are in streaming and dating spaces. Am I on point or way off?What evolutions have you been seeing in advertising within social networks?Heading into the holiday season, what do you expect will happen with large e-commerce brands? Where will they be investing their mobile advertising?Timestamp:5:14 Seema’s background9:53 What is Sensor Tower?14:55 Where are the most resurrected users?20:17 Trends in-app advertising on social networks31:33 Holiday advertising for e-commerce brandsMentioned in this Episode:Seema Shah’s LinkedInSensor Tower

Nov 27, 2024 • 22min
#20. Marketing Management Tips for Large Portfolios of Apps - Ekaterina Samohovets (AIBY)
Ekaterina Samohovets is the Head of User Acquisition at AIBY, a company building businesses that specialize in mobile app products. With over 50 apps and more than 2 billion downloads across their portfolio, Ekaterina shares insights into her approach to managing performance marketing across a team of 25 people. Questions Ekaterina answered in this Episode:What is AIBY?What kinds of apps are in your portfolio? What are some of your biggest hits?How do you organize managing growth strategies for such a large portfolio?How do you help people on your team get up to speed with channels that they’re not as familiar with?What else is key to your success?Timestamp:2:45 Ekaterina’s performance marketing background6:30 What is AIBY?9:47 A look inside AIBY’s UA team structure13:00 Internal sharing system18:00 Tips for successMentioned in this Episode:Ekaterina Samohovets’s LinkedInAIBY

Nov 13, 2024 • 40min
#19. The Growth Potential of Niche Apps: BlueThrone's Approach to Acquisitions - Josh Peleg (BlueThrone)
Josh Peleg, Head of Business Development at BlueThrone, shares his expertise in app acquisitions and growth strategies. He discusses how niche apps can thrive by tapping into organic traffic and user engagement. The conversation highlights the importance of app ratings, the impact of macro trends on acquisitions, and how developers can effectively present their apps for a successful exit. Peleg also addresses the role of gamification in boosting user retention and engagement, shedding light on the evolving app landscape.
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