
Marketing Spark (The B2B SaaS Marketing Podcast)
30-minute conversations with B2B SaaS marketers and entrepreneurs about the different roles played by marketing to build brands, attract customers, and drive growth.
Latest episodes

Feb 15, 2023 • 32min
How B2B SaaS Companies Should Hire Freelancers, Contractors & Agencies
In challenging economic times, marketing budgets are low-hanging fruit when it comes to cost cutting. In the process, many B2B SaaS companies turn to freelancers, contractors and agencies for strategic and tactical support.In this episode of Marketing Spark, Gwen Lafage (who has worked for agencies and as a B2B SaaS marketing leader) talks about how to hire and get value from top-quality suppliers.We also talk imposter syndrome and how B2B SaaS marketers can be creative to break out of the box.

Jan 31, 2023 • 32min
The "Less is More" Approach to B2B SaaS Marketing
In this episode of Marketing Spark, Andrew Arocha, Drift's chief revenue officer, talks about how less (marketing) will be more amid more difficult economic conditions.He talks about how companies will focus on revenue growth rather than brand awareness, the future of conferences (smaller and more intimate), best practices for ABM, and how companies should approach customer retention and churn.

Jan 23, 2023 • 30min
Using Customer Intelligence to Retain Customers: Mike Diaz
As B2B SaaS companies focus on retention rather than acquisition, customer intelligence is becoming more important.On this episode of Marketing Spark, Mike Diaz talks about the different ways that companies can leverage data and information to keep customers in the fold.

Jan 6, 2023 • 26min
Chatbot and the Future of Conversational Intelligence: Sonny Patel
Sonny Patel, an expert in chatbot technology and conversational intelligence, discusses the future of AI-powered chatbots for marketing and sales. Topics include the challenges of creating human-like chatbots, the value of personalization, the crowded landscape of the chatbot industry, and measuring the performance of chatbots.

Dec 14, 2022 • 28min
For B2B SaaS Companies, Podcasts are a No-Brainer: Jeremy Shere
Podcasts can be a valuable marketing tool for B2B SaaS companies because they provide opportunities to connect with customers, prospects, and influencers.
Podcasts can also help generate a lot of content by extracting insight about multiple topics, which can be useful for content marketing efforts.
However, it can be challenging for marketers to convince senior executives to invest in a podcast because it can be difficult to measure return on investment (ROI).
In this episode of Marketing Spark, Connversa Podcasting CEO Jeremy Shere, talks to Mark Evans about:
- How companies should quantify ROI
- Why podcasts continue to be embrace amid tough economic conditions
- The biggest reasons why companies shy away from podcasts
- The reasons why companies jump on the podcast bandwagon; podcasts done by competitors being one of biggest factors.
- Why consistency is the key to podcast success
- The role of podcasts within the sales process

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Dec 7, 2022 • 38min
Putting the spotlight on content, GA4, Website optimization and CTAs: Andy Crestodina
The digital marketing landscape is always changing.
There are new channels, tools, and approaches.
But it feels like we’ve entered uncharted territory for digital marketing amid global economic growth.
The rising tide that lifted many, if not all, ships has disappeared. And there’s increasing pressure on digital marketers to perform and do marketing that converts.
I couldn’t think of a better person to offer insight and perspective about digital marketing than Andy Crestodina, who has been operating in the digital world since 2000.
On the podcast, we talk about:
- How blogs can rank in search
- How to use GA4
- The effectiveness of "Get a Demo"
- Why so much homepage messaging is unclear
- Whether AI-powered writing tools will make an impact

Nov 23, 2022 • 54min
What's a Fractional CMO and How Do They Deliver?
One of the more interesting business trends is the rise of the fractional executive.
It's the idea that you can someone with skills and experience but not on a full-time basis. It's an intriguing model for companies looking to fill gaps economically.
In this episode of Marketing Spark, I sit down with Malcolm Lewis to explore the fractional CMO (FCMO) model.
We look at the definition of FCMO, what they do, how to hire one, and how to define the rules of engagement.
Malcolm also talk about the value of positioning as a pillar of the B2B marketing foundation.
Learn more about how I help B2B SaaS companies with positioning.

Nov 9, 2022 • 40min
Digital Marketing in a Clickless, Attribution-Free World
For many years, marketers have leaned hard into data for information and insight about how people interact with different activities.
But the landscape has dramatically changed.
A lot of digital marketing can't be tracked or attributed. People see content but never click, or they learn about products on the Dark Web.
Spark Toro CEO Rand Fishkin says marketers need to return to the days of creativity and ingenuity to attract and engage customers.
He says they need to make leaps of faith when making marketing decisions as opposed to depending on data to lead the way strategically and tactically.
It's an insightful conversation with someone who's been in the digital trenches for a long time.

Nov 2, 2022 • 34min
How to Pick the Right Podcast Booking Agency
Definition of annoying: most pitches from podcast booking agencies.
They’re not personalized.
Clearly, no research has been done.
They’re frequently off-topic.
And sometimes they use the wrong name.
Agencies using these types of agencies are getting bad deals.
It’s hard to get a guest on podcast, so you can't use a company that does a poor job.
Having received so many bad podcast guest pitches, I asked Jakub Zajicek from Speak on Podcasts for insight and advice on how and when to use a podcast agency.
Since launcing in 2020, Speak on Podcasts has booked more than 2,000 guests and represents companies like @gong and @paddle.
The key to finding the right partner is simple: research and being clear about your point of view and who’s going to do the talking.
As important, companies need a strategic plan that integrates how podcasts will fit into the marketing and sales mix.

Oct 26, 2022 • 33min
The Growing Importance of Customer Intelligence
The more that you know your customers, the better.
That's Marketing 101.
As marketing attribution becomes increasingly more challenging, companies will need new tools to identify and engage prospects.
Getting this type of customer intelligence will allow them to make better and faster marketing, advertising, and sales decisions.
On the Marketing Spark podcast, Clearbit CMO Kevin Tate talks about how companies can use technology to identify their ideal customer profiles (ICPs), how to gain insight into what customers and prospects are thinking and the questions being asked, and how to identify Website visitors who don't provide any contact information.
We also took a look at Clearbit's marketing activities - content marketing and free tools.
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