

Irregular Warfare Podcast
Irregular Warfare Initiative
The Irregular Warfare Podcast explores an important component of war throughout history. Small wars, drone strikes, special operations forces, counterterrorism, proxies—this podcast covers the full range of topics related to irregular war and features in-depth conversations with guests from the military, academia, and the policy community. The podcast is a collaboration between the Modern War Institute at West Point and Princeton University’s Empirical Studies of Conflict Project.
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Nov 14, 2023 • 32min
Taking the Long View on Hamas
Dr. Levi West discusses the history and strategy of Hamas, exploring the likelihood of its tactics spreading. The discussion also delves into the enduring friction between Israel and Iran and its broader impact on the geopolitical environment. The podcast highlights the importance of studying well-established terrorist organizations like Hamas to gain insights into irregular warfare.

Nov 3, 2023 • 52min
Irregular Warfare at Sea: The Cod Wars and Sea Shepherd
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What do the Cod Wars—a years-long series of confrontations between Iceland and the United Kingdom over North Atlantic fishing rights—and the operations of the marine conservation organization Sea Shepherd teach us about irregular warfare in the sea domain? How do the actions of states and both nonstate and substate actors intersect to shape the maritime operational environment in which irregular warfare at sea plays out? In this episode, Kevin Bilms, a career civil servant in the Office of the Secretary of Defense, and Dr. Claude Berube, a retired Navy commander who teaches at the US Naval Academy, join hosts Ben Jebb and Lisa Munde to explore this fascinating and important subject.
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Oct 20, 2023 • 55min
Subversion: The Strategic Weaponization of Narratives
The podcast discusses how revisionist states are utilizing strategic narratives as a weapon to sow political chaos. It explores investments in information operations and the challenges faced by liberal democracies. The speakers also delve into case studies on subversion in the UAE and Russia, highlighting the strategic weaponization of narratives to undermine civil society. Additionally, it analyzes the vulnerabilities in democratic systems to combat subversive information.

Oct 5, 2023 • 46min
The Prisoner’s Dilemma: Hostage Diplomacy 101
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Why do states engage in hostage taking to advance their interests? What incentives are in place that make them choose hostage taking over other, more traditional instruments of power? How do conventional international relations concepts like deterrence apply to the unique challenge of hostage taking? This episode examines these questions and more, as our hosts are joined for a fascinating discussion by Ambassador Roger D. Carstens, the special presidential envoy for hostage affairs at the US Department of State, and Dr. Dani Gilbert, an assistant professor of political science at Northwestern University whose research explores the causes and consequences of hostage taking and hostage recovery.
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Sep 21, 2023 • 51min
Gray Zone: China’s Political Warfare
Experts discuss China's political warfare strategy, including cyber operations and espionage. They explore strategies to create divisions within China and the importance of industry and informing the public. The episode emphasizes the need for a comprehensive assessment of China's preparations and actions, as well as countering their political warfare tactics.

Sep 8, 2023 • 41min
Inside the US-China Tech War
Exploring the US-China tech war, including the effectiveness of US regulatory measures, China's pursuit of advanced technologies, the shift from decoupling to de-risking in US foreign policy, and the impact of US-China tech competition on the rest of the world.

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Aug 25, 2023 • 52min
Who’s Watching the Watchmen? Congressional Oversight of Irregular Warfare
Dr. Oo, an expert in irregular warfare and congressional oversight, discusses the complexities and gaps in oversight of irregular warfare. Topics include failures of congressional oversight, challenges with the War Powers Resolution, and the need for sunset requirements for military force authorizations. Explore the challenges of congressional oversight in irregular warfare, including program distinctions, lack of visibility, and defining hostilities.

Aug 11, 2023 • 54min
Hindsight and Foresight: A Twenty-Year Retrospective on Irregular Warfare and Counterinsurgency
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In what ways do irregular warfare and counterinsurgency overlap? Is China engaged in irregular warfare against its adversaries? What are some of the failures of the wars and conflicts of the last twenty years and why did they occur? What do IW practitioners need to do to avoid the mistakes and to ensure they learn the hard-won lessons of the last twenty years in IW and COIN? This episode explores these deeply important questions and features a conversation with two of the leading experts on the subject: David Kilcullen and John Nagl.
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Jul 28, 2023 • 50min
The Rise of Digital Repression: How Technology is Reshaping Power, Politics, and Resistance
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What happens when authoritarianism expands into online environments? A form of digital repression takes shape. But what does that actually look like? What are the specific ways that authoritarian regimes use new technologies to control their populations? And how are resistance groups adapting to overcome digital repression? This episode addresses those questions as hosts Matt Moellering and Adam Darnley-Stuart are joined by Steven Feldstein, author of the book The Rise of Digital Repression: How Technology is Reshaping Power, Politics, and Resistance, and John Tullius, who retired from the CIA in 2019 and now teaches classes on intelligence at the Naval Postgraduate School.
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Jul 14, 2023 • 53min
Treating or Feeding the Disease? Elite Capture of the Security Sector
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What does it mean when a state’s security sector undergoes what scholars call “elite capture”—a form of corruption in which military and defense resources are leveraged to benefit a small, powerful segment of society? What problems contribute to elite capture and is it possible to disentangle them? From a US policy perspective, what can be done to limit the risk of elite capture when engaging with countries vulnerable to it?
This episode addresses all of these questions as Ambassador Anne Patterson, retired Lieutenant General Karl Eikenberry, and Dr. Louis-Alexandre Berg join host Julia McClenon. They bring their combined experience and expertise to a wide-ranging discussion on a deeply challenging policy issue.
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