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Irregular Warfare Podcast

Dealers and Brokers in Proxy Wars: Exploring All Means Available

Nov 17, 2023
This podcast explores the role of intermediaries and the complexities of proxy wars. It discusses lessons learned from past conflicts and the involvement of various actors. Topics include the introduction of Stinger missiles in Afghanistan, plausible deniability in covert actions, meticulous planning during the bin Laden raid, lessons from history on great powers in proxy wars, and the role of decisiveness in these conflicts.
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Quick takeaways

  • Proxy conflicts involve indirect military intervention through armed non-state actors, requiring strategic alignment and management of intermediate relationships.
  • Managing proxy conflicts requires understanding and navigating the agency of intermediaries and agents, aligning interests, and effective communication.

Deep dives

The Complexity of Proxy Conflict

Proxy conflict involves indirect military intervention where a state supports an armed non-state actor, usually a rebel group. It is a strategic option used by countries to achieve their objectives through proxies. The relationship between the principal and the intermediary is not static, and interests can diverge over time. Strategic alignment and the management of intermediate relationships are crucial to achieving success. The role of intermediaries can vary, from serving as an honest broker to a self-interested dealer. Time also plays a significant role, with long-term conflicts requiring consistency and patience. Proxy conflicts can take different forms based on the strategic context, such as counter-terrorism or great power competition. The agency of both intermediaries and agents must be considered, as they have their own interests and can influence the dynamics of the conflict.

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