

Irregular Warfare Podcast
Irregular Warfare Initiative
The Irregular Warfare Podcast explores an important component of war throughout history. Small wars, drone strikes, special operations forces, counterterrorism, proxies—this podcast covers the full range of topics related to irregular war and features in-depth conversations with guests from the military, academia, and the policy community. The podcast is a collaboration between the Modern War Institute at West Point and Princeton University’s Empirical Studies of Conflict Project.
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Feb 13, 2025 • 59min
The Fourth Age: The SOCOM Commander's Vision for the Future
General Bryan P. Fenton, Commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, and Command Sergeant Major Shane Shorter discuss the evolution and future of Special Operations Forces. They highlight how storytelling enhances military education and strategic planning. The guests delve into the impact of emerging technologies, including cyber and space, on future special operations. Additionally, they explore historical shifts in SOF from World War II to present-day conflicts and the necessity for adaptability in an ever-changing geopolitical landscape.

Jan 28, 2025 • 48min
Training for Victory: Lessons for Security Force Assistance
In this insightful discussion, Frank Sobchak, a retired Special Forces colonel and author, teams up with JoAnn Naumann, a seasoned USASOC Command Sergeant Major. They delve into the intricacies of security force assistance, highlighting the importance of language skills, advisor-to-force ratios, and the necessity of building trust through consistent collaboration. The conversation shifts to lessons learned from past U.S. missions and emphasizes the need for adaptive strategies in an evolving global landscape, ensuring effective partnerships in security operations.

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Jan 10, 2025 • 52min
Theory vs. Practice: What is Irregular War?
Jonathan Hackett, a seasoned U.S. Marine with two decades in intelligence and authoring 'Theory of Irregular War,' joins Dr. Sandor Fabian, a former Hungarian Special Forces officer and defense contractor, to dissect irregular warfare. They introduce the concept of the 'dysfunctional sovereign' and critique U.S. military doctrine. Key discussions include the emotional dimensions of conflict, strategies for small nations, and the necessity of adapting military approaches by learning from historical precedents and diverse methodologies.

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Dec 27, 2024 • 46min
Below the Threshold: China's Strategy of Armed Coercion
James Siebens, a Fellow at the Stimson Center and expert on China's military coercion, teams up with Jimmy Wang, a former Navy Foreign Area Officer, to unpack China's armed coercion strategies. They discuss how China uses military and paramilitary forces to assert territorial claims while delving into the implications for U.S. foreign policy. The conversation reveals the complexities of psychological warfare and lawfare in the Indo-Pacific, concluding with insights on effective deterrence strategies to counter China’s assertiveness.

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Dec 13, 2024 • 56min
Culture, Access, Influence: The FAO Advantage in Irregular Warfare
Mike Burgoyne and Jim Marckwardt, both retired U.S. Army officers with extensive diplomatic experience, dive into the pivotal role of Foreign Area Officers (FAOs) in irregular warfare. They explore the evolution of the FAO program and its importance as a bridge between military operations and diplomacy. The discussion includes impactful case studies such as Plan Colombia and the significance of U.S. military presence in Central America amidst great power competition. They also share insights on leveraging FAO expertise to enhance strategic military partnerships.

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Nov 29, 2024 • 52min
Sneaky Wars in the Indo-Pacific
In this engaging discussion, national security expert Sean McFate, who has an extensive background in military service and private contracting, delves into the evolving nature of irregular warfare. He introduces the clever concept of 'sneaky war' and emphasizes the need for unconventional tactics against global adversaries like China. The conversation also highlights the rising influence of mercenaries like the Wagner Group and the crucial role of information warfare in modern conflicts, urging a sophisticated approach to combat disinformation.

Nov 15, 2024 • 51min
SOF’s Role in Conflict
Chris Maier, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations, and Colonel Patrick Nelson, Commander of the 7th Special Forces Group, delve into the evolving role of Special Operations Forces in modern conflict. They highlight the transition from counterinsurgency to large-scale combat operations, emphasizing the need for strategic insights and human skills. The discussion also touches on the importance of building trust with local forces, navigating permissions, and the need for collaboration to enhance SOF effectiveness in complex environments.

Oct 31, 2024 • 52min
Adapting to the Unpredictable: Climate’s Impact on Irregular Warfare
Sherri Goodman, a Senior Fellow at the Wilson Center and former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Environmental Security, joins Ambassador John Hennessey-Niland, a Professor at the Bush School and former U.S. Ambassador to Palau, to discuss the intersection of climate change and irregular warfare. They delve into how environmental shifts influence military strategies, the role of partnerships in addressing challenges, and the specific threats faced by Pacific island nations. Their insights highlight the urgent need for proactive climate security measures.

Oct 18, 2024 • 45min
SOF and Influence Activities
Join Professor Martin Kitson, an expert in Irregular Warfare from the Netherlands Defence Academy, and Major General Ron Smits, former Commander of Netherlands Special Operations, as they discuss the pivotal role of Special Operations Forces in modern influence activities. They explore the shift from counterterrorism to influence operations, the necessity of cultural understanding, and the importance of diverse skill sets. The conversation dives into the challenges SOF face in a hybrid warfare landscape, addressing the intricate balance of local engagement and global security demands.

Oct 4, 2024 • 54min
The Stability Instability Paradox: How Nuclear Weapons Incentivize Irregular Warfare
Joining the discussion are Professor Sumit Ganguly, a political science expert on South Asia, and Professor Tricia Bacon, a scholar on nuclear warfare implications. They dive into how nuclear weapons have transformed India-Pakistan relations, particularly the Kargil conflict. The guests unravel the Stability and Instability Paradox, revealing how nuclear deterrence may promote irregular warfare while preventing large-scale conflicts. They also explore the evolving roles of proxy forces and non-state actors in the region, highlighting the complexities of security dynamics.


