
The Rent Roll with Jay Parsons
All things rental housing -- headlines, commentaries and interviews on apartments, SFR, BTR, operations, investments, development, policy and more.
Latest episodes

Mar 13, 2025 • 49min
EP#25 Michael Van Der Poel | Today's Institutional Buy Box
Michael Van Der Poel, co-founder of Acre, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of multifamily housing and institutional investment strategies. He discusses how capital is shifting away from high-regulation coastal markets to growth regions in the Sun Belt and Midwest. Jay highlights the unique challenges facing Los Angeles and explores opportunities in emerging markets like Dallas and Charleston. The duo dives into equity and debt strategies, the rise of build-to-rent sectors, and the complexities of value-add real estate ventures.

Mar 6, 2025 • 56min
EP#24 Matthew Putterman | Single-Family Rental REITs Earnings Recaps
Matthew Putterman, Managing Director and Single Family Rental Business Leader at JLL, shares insights on the evolving landscape of single-family rentals. He discusses the recent slowdown in SFR revenue growth and challenges surrounding institutional buying practices. Jay Parsons and Matthew break down how regulatory risks affect investment strategies and why institutions are shifting away from MLS purchases. Additionally, they explore the importance of resident experiences and adaptability in a changing market, further highlighting the dynamics between scattered site homes and new construction.

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Feb 27, 2025 • 55min
EP#23 Jasin Alfaro | The Case For Tertiary Markets
Jasin Alfaro, CEO of Metonic, is a multifamily real estate veteran with expertise in tertiary market strategies. He discusses why smaller metro areas are thriving, emphasizing their recent outperformance in rent growth. Jasin dives into what he looks for in these markets and shares insights on how to persuade investors to consider lesser-known regions. The conversation also highlights significant job and population trends boosting demand in areas like Port St. Lucie and St. George, alongside the rising importance of data-driven investment strategies.

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Feb 20, 2025 • 51min
EP#22 Daniel Walsh | Is Debt The New Equity? Sort Of.
Dan Walsh, Founder and CEO of Citymark Capital, shares his insights on the shift from equity to debt investments in real estate. He discusses how market dynamics influenced his decision to focus on debt, especially with an eye on the evolving rental landscape. Jay Parsons highlights significant industry movements, such as KKR's $850 million debt fund and JPMorgan's strategic ventures. The conversation also touches on housing policy challenges in major cities like Los Angeles and Boston, along with the complexities of navigating loan maturities and the broader economic implications.

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Feb 13, 2025 • 1h 4min
EP#21 Ric Campo | Apartment REITs' Earnings Recap
Jay Parsons dives into the recent earnings of major apartment REITs, revealing a push for increased construction despite a tough building climate. Insights from Ric Campo of Camden Property Trust highlight the Sun Belt's high supply versus demand dynamics and an optimistic outlook for 2025. The discussion features the clever use of thematic music during earnings calls to engage listeners. Plus, there's a look at innovative residential conversion projects and new housing policies shaping the market. Get ready for some fun trivia along the way!

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Feb 6, 2025 • 53min
EP#20 Ivan Barratt | NMHC Buzz & Midwest Love
Ivan Barratt, Founder and CEO of BAM Companies, shares insights from the multifamily investment world. He discusses the Midwest's resurgence as a hot spot for investors, detailing the unique opportunities this region presents. Barratt highlights emerging markets like Indianapolis and Columbus, emphasizing how affordability and stability are attracting capital. He also addresses the challenges of raising funds in this competitive landscape and reflects on how new investors are reshaping the market dynamics. Plus, a fun detour into sports trade discussions adds a lively twist!

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Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 5min
EP#19 Chris Porter | How Demographic Shifts Impact Renting
Explore how demographic shifts are reshaping the rental housing market, with insights on household formation and income trends. Discover the surprising growth in both younger and older renters, and the impact of the pandemic on suburban living. Learn about young adults moving back with parents and changing attitudes toward marriage and family. With rising interest rates influencing investor confidence, find out about new initiatives for affordable housing and the emerging investment opportunities in Midwest cities.

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Jan 23, 2025 • 45min
EP#18 Steve Kimmelman | Build-To-Rent Update With The BTR King
Steve Kimmelman, founder of Redwood Living, dives into the booming Build-to-Rent (BTR) sector, claiming a leading position with over three times the units of the next largest competitor. He shares insights on branding BTR as 'apartment neighborhoods' to enhance community appeal. Discover the staggering 94.4% national occupancy rate and the predicted rent growth. Kimmelman discusses the shift of institutional investors toward BTR, the obstacles of rising costs, and the evolving housing market dynamics shaping the future of rental communities.

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Jan 16, 2025 • 54min
EP#17 David Moore | The Re-Rise Of The Sun Belt
In this engaging discussion, David Moore, Founder and CEO of Knightvest Capital, shares insights from his extensive experience acquiring over 60,000 apartment units in the Sun Belt. He explores the current rental landscape, addressing the paradox of high demand amidst elevated vacancy rates. They dive into the significant drop in new construction and its implications for future supply. David highlights hot markets poised for recovery, while Jay Parsons adds depth with economic data and trends, making a compelling case for optimism in the Sun Belt multifamily sector.

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Jan 9, 2025 • 57min
EP#16 Greg Willett | Q1'25 U.S. Apartment Market Update
Greg Willett, First Vice President and National Director of Research at IPA, shares his multifamily real estate expertise. He discusses the surprising demand hitting the U.S. apartment market in 2024, addressing occupancy trends and rent growth peaking at an 18-month high. Key markets in Texas show resilience despite new supply, while the stalled homebuyer market influences rental dynamics. Willett also highlights promising forecasts for Florida's apartment markets and the contrasting performance of different property classes. Get ready for valuable insights into the future of rental housing!