
Email After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders
Welcome to Email After Hours by Sender Score, powered by Validity.
By day, we help email senders all over the world boost their email performance. Once we’re off the clock, we interview email marketing experts to talk about email fails, spam, privacy laws, metrics that matter, content that converts—and anything else that keeps senders up at night. Nothing is off-limits. We know what works in email–and we know the road to your next great campaign is getting bumpier by the day. So, we’re making it our mission to answer the single most important question for senders: How can we give email subscribers what they really want? To find out, join us after hours. Hosted by Danielle Gallant, Senior Email Strategist, and Guy Hanson, VP of Customer Engagement at Validity, Inc.
Latest episodes

Jul 20, 2023 • 29min
Guardians of the Email Galaxy: Global Deliverability Lessons from the Certified Senders Alliance
In a world filled with phishers, scammers, and other email villains, the Certified Senders Alliance (CSA) sets standards for the email ecosystem and enforces best practices. In other words, any sender trying to navigate the latest deliverability challenges and reach more inboxes will want to take notes on this episode.In just 30 minutes, email guru Sebastian Kluth, Team Lead at the Certified Senders Alliance (CSA), shares his insights and trade secrets on the importance of transparency, proper permissioning, and good data in effective email marketing strategies. He’ll also dive into lessons senders in all regions can learn from German senders—who enjoy some of the highest inbox placement rates in the world.If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)

Jul 6, 2023 • 33min
Privacy Please! How to Implement a Privacy-First Email Marketing Strategy with Anteriad
Put yourself in your subscriber’s shoes for a minute: How many marketing emails do you get each day? How do you choose the ones you engage with? Chances are, they’re from brands you trust.As high-profile consumer data breaches grab headlines, subscribers are growing more and more wary of how their personal information is used. It’s up to marketers to earn their loyalty by practicing safe, ethical marketing and making their privacy policies clear.In this episode, Anteriad’s Karie Burt, Chief Data and Privacy Officer, and Courtney Cope, Vice President of Data, share their strategies for mastering evolving privacy legislations, collecting customer data, and leveraging Anteriad’s privacy-first mindset to build brand loyalty.If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)

Jun 22, 2023 • 34min
Stop! It's Scammer Time
What’s a two-word problem that everyone faces? Scam emails. These pesky messages somehow find their way into our inboxes, promising everything from magical weight loss solutions to exotic vacations. It feels like they’re everywhere these days. We've all encountered them, and let's face it, they're hard to ignore.In this hosts-only episode, we’ll explore the weird, wacky, and dangerous world of email scams. We’ll share some great stories, valuable tips, and maybe even a few surprises.If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)

Jun 8, 2023 • 30min
The One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann Handley
The world of email marketing is changing fast, but one thing remains the same: Content is still king (or queen!).In this episode of Email After Hours, certified content queen Ann Handley, Chief Content Marketing Officer at MarketingProfs, shares her secrets to creating engaging email content that converts casual email browsers into lifetime customers.She’ll cover ChatGPT, why “From” addresses are more important than subject lines (yes, you heard that right!), preference center hacks, and more.Plus, she’ll reveal the little-known email marketing metric that measures a sender’s ability to build meaningful relationships with their subscribers. (OWBR—take notes!) If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)

May 25, 2023 • 36min
New Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)
Consumer preferences for email are changing fast. Just a decade ago, businesses relied on broad email marketing campaigns and generalized messaging to reach wide audiences. Nowadays, this strategy is completely ineffective.Luckily, we have brand-new research from the DMA (Data & Marketing Association) that reveals what subscribers want from email in 2023. Some spoilers: People check their spam folders more than you might think, subscribers can only remember ten brands at a time, and logos are more important than subject lines.Read the full report here: https://bit.ly/41XON68If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)

May 11, 2023 • 24min
Testing, 1, 2, 3: Innovative Email Testing Strategies with Auto Trader’s Sarah Jones
Regular testing is the backbone of any successful email program—and can be the difference between a benchmark-busting campaign and one that falls flat. Sarah Jones, Senior CRM Manager at Auto Trader, knows this better than anyone. Auto Trader is the UK's largest digital automotive marketplace. But given the influx of competitors to the space over the past few years, regular testing is essential to keep Auto Trader ahead of the competition.. In this episode of Email After Hours, Sarah shares her expert advice on email testing—and some of the most surprising things she's learned from her tests. If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)

Apr 27, 2023 • 30min
Why We’re Still Mad About Apple’s MPP (and How Senders Can Adapt) with Oracle’s Chad S. White
MPP: three little letters that are giving email marketers everywhere sleepless nights. Since Apple’s Mail Privacy Protection (MPP) was introduced in 2021, it’s had a profound effect on how senders measure email engagement.In this episode of Email After Hours, Chad S. White, a twenty-two-year veteran in the email marketing space, shares strategies that senders can use to succeed in the post-MPP world. He also discusses some of the policy’s unexpected consequences and how it might unintentionally facilitate unethical marketing practices.If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)

Apr 13, 2023 • 24min
Using Email to Improve the Ecommerce Buying Experience with Michael Affronti, SVP at Salesforce Commerce Cloud
Ecommerce has exploded over the past decade—particularly during COVID-19 when in-person retailers were forced online. Naturally, this ecommerce burst has had massive implications on the world of email. As the channels consumers can use to shop and interact with brands multiply, it can be difficult to keep the customer journey clean and consistent. Since ecommerce is here to stay, let’s get to the bottom of how marketers can use email to create a better ecommerce buying experience. In this episode of Email After Hours, Michael Affronti, SVP and General Manager at Commerce Cloud, uses his nineteen years of domain experience to shed light on how companies should use emails to raise engagement levels and get to know the ecommerce customer better. If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)

Mar 30, 2023 • 37min
Mastering Email & SMS as Complementary Forces with Karen Talavera, Founder of Synchronicity Marketing
Here’s an interesting tidbit for email marketers: the average smartphone user checks their phones 96 times a day. For brands using SMS marketing, that means 96 opportunities to convert subscribers—and 96 chances to alienate them when done wrong. Do you want to learn how to walk that fine line and make SMS a force multiplier for your email outreach? In this episode of Email After Hours, Karen Talavera, Founder and Principal at Synchronicity Marketing brings her thirty years of digital marketing experience and shares her insight on how using SMS marketing correctly can turbocharge email campaigns. If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)

Mar 16, 2023 • 24min
The Role of Empathy in Email Marketing with Kate Barrett of eFocus Marketing
Don’t you hate the impersonal, salesy emails that flood your inbox daily? In these turbulent times, brands must show empathy in their marketing communications to be successful. If you want subscribers’ money, start by showing you care about them—and remember, actions speak louder than words. In this episode of Email After Hours, Kate Barrett, a twelve-year veteran in the email marketing space and founder of eFocus Marketing, shares her insights on how to show empathy in email campaigns in a way that is authentic and credible.If you enjoyed this episode then please either:Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple PodcastsFollow ‘Email After Hours’ on SpotifyEmail After Hours: The Podcast for Email Senders is handcrafted by our friends over at fame.soCheck out our three most downloaded episodes:Rethinking Customer Loyalty Programs: The Good, The Bad, and The Free CoffeeThe One Email Metric You’re Not Tracking (& Other Secrets to Killer Email Content) with MarketingProfs’ Ann HandleyNew Consumer Email Trends & Tips to Become a BFF Brand with the Data & Marketing Association (DMA)