
Social Pros Podcast
Presented by Convince & Convert, Social Pros is one of the longest-running marketing podcasts in existence! Focused on the nexus of social media and other marketing disciplines, we bring you interviews and commentary from companies including Google, Reddit, Uber, Oracle, and many more to understand how social media impacts brand marketing, content marketing, reputation management, public relations, paid media, and much more.
After more than a decade, Social Pros is still the one podcast that brings listeners inside the minds of marketing leaders making real impact. Join us as we dive behind-the-scenes and share actionable marketing strategies that you can immediately implement.
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Latest episodes

Aug 18, 2023 • 42min
Why Brands Go People-First on Social
It’s easy to get distracted by the trends, new platforms, and brands that are social media stars in their own right. But how do you create a strategy that’s right for your brand? This episode of Social Pros with Mariya Spektor, Director of Content, Social Media at Social Chain, has some tips you won’t want to miss. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details It should go without saying. Social media is all about the people, and yet if your social media strategy is caught up in trying to go viral or become the next Wendy’s, you might not get the results you hope for. In this episode, we spoke with Mariya Spektor, who is the Director of Content for Social Media at Social Chain. We chat about the importance of building a community and how there’s often a disconnect for brands who are going about social the wrong way. For Mariya, she sees a lot of brands practicing “savage social” (think Wendy’s and Ryanair) when it doesn’t match their brand tone. Instead, Mariya shares some tips on building a strategy that puts people first. We also discuss different platforms and whether Threads is the next Twitter rival, how some brands are monetizing TikTok content, and why there’s a compromise to be made between speed and creativity. In This Episode: 00:00 - Introduction 03:36 – Why community is so important in social media 06:30 – Why some brands face a community disconnect 08:32 – Which brands get “savage social” right 15:31 – How brands can set themselves up for success 20:44 – Mariya’s experiences of TikTok shopping 26:00 – Predictions on the future of Threads 30:20 – The challenge of keeping up with different social media platforms 32:16 – Speed vs. creativity – which matters most? 35:48 – Staying on trend in social media 38:03 – The big two questions Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Aug 11, 2023 • 43min
Taking on Toxic Social with Noam Bardin
We are so pleased to welcome Noam Bardin, Founder of Post News, on this episode of the Social Pros podcast. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details As much as we love social, we have to acknowledge that it comes with gray areas and undesirable aspects. Joining this episode to dissect social’s shortcomings is Noam Bardin, Founder of Post News. Noam shares the dangers of platforms making engagement top priority, how social pros can grapple both the positives and negatives of social networks and how Post News plans to work toward preventing misinformation. Plus, he gives his thoughts on the future of Threads. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 3:19 – Noam’s background in the industry 4:44 – What is Post News? 10:39 – Positive vs negative sides of social 15:03 – Unravelling Threads 19:12 – How Post can fight mis/disinformation 29:55 – Post’s reception from journalists and users 33:53 – The future of social media 39:29 – Noam’s Final Two 42:35 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Download Post News Connect with Noam on LinkedIn Follow Noam on Twitter Follow Noam on Instagram Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Aug 4, 2023 • 41min
How to Get Better Audience Insights with SparkToro’s Amanda Natividad
Amanda Natividad, VP of Marketing at SparkToro, shares insights on collecting meaningful audience insights through social listening and customer interactions. She discusses the impact of Threads and best strategies, emphasizing the importance of understanding user behavior for effective marketing approaches.

Jul 28, 2023 • 43min
Fresh Social Takes with ICUC's Erika Lovegreen
Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details In this ever-changing world of social, how can community managers serve their people in the best possible ways? Erika Lovegreen, SVP of Marketing & Communications at ICUC, returns to Social Pros to tells us her expert advice. Erika discusses why social listening is as crucial as ever, why it’s important to keep your community front of mind when making changes on social and how best to team AI with your ‘human-first approach’. Plus, she shares her thoughts on Threads and changes to Reddit and gives us the lowdown on ICUC’s brand-new eBook. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 3:32 – What ICUC are working on right now 6:05 – How brands should approach Threads 12:30 – Will Threads welcome brand-safe interactions? 15:03 – Erika’s take on Reddit’s current situation 18:10 – Have your finger on the pulse of your community 24:49 – Integrating AI and maintaining human touch 39:24 – Erika’s up-to-date final two! 42:05 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Visit the ICUC website Connect with Erika on LinkedIn Follow Erika on Instagram Download the ‘How to Beat the AI Craze with Human-First Messaging’ eBook Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jul 21, 2023 • 41min
How Shiseido’s Social Leverages 150+ Years of Experience
Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details So many teams work with creators to amplify their brand on social. But how do you build strong, fruitful relationships with the right partners? Taylor Speer, Manager of Global Social Media at Shiseido, joins this episode of Social Pros to share her thoughts. Taylor discusses how creators help Shiseido compete with celebrity-backed brands, the best ways to build authentic partnerships and why it’s more crucial than ever to keep diversity and representation front of mind. Plus, she tells us why Microsoft Excel is her tool of choice and the one biggest mistake you can make as a social pro. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 4:44 – How Shiseido cut through the noise on social 7:33 – How creator relationships have changed 11:15 – The benefits of fostering strong creator partnerships 14:40 – Diversity and representation at Shiseido 20:44 – Networking with influencers 23:41 – Planning social content 31:05 – What keeps Taylor organized 36:34 – Taylor’s final two 40:25 - Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Connect with Taylor on LinkedIn Follow Taylor on Instagram Visit Taylor’s website Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jul 14, 2023 • 42min
How to Be a Social Selling Pro with Timothy Hughes
Selling is the primary motivator for a lot of people on social media. Some people do it really well, others are a little less polished. But it’s safe to say that a lot of people aren’t pros at social selling. Timothy Hughes, on the other hand, is a social selling master who joins Social Pros to share his wisdom, advice, and thoughts on selling on social media today. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details Timothy Hughes, CEO and Co-Founder of DLA ignite, plus the author of Social Selling: Techniques to Influence Buyers and Changemakers, joins Social Pros to talk about the art of social selling. For Timothy, social selling is not a new or “future state.” If you’re not already doing it, you’re already behind. This is something Timothy addressed in his book – which he recently updated with tons more information about how social selling has moved on since. In this episode, Timothy explains how the world has changed, why conversations are still king on social, how to avoid being outdated, and the best ways to talk to strangers online. We also hear his three top recommendations for those wanting to sell on social. If you’re looking to improve your social selling skills, this is one you’ll want to tune in for. In This Episode: 5:09 – Why Timothy decided to revisit his book 7:16 – How starting DLA ignite contributed to the second edition 9:58 – How being ingrained in interruption marketing gives a false view of social selling 10:44 – Social media is for people to be social 12:00 - How to “sell” the idea of social selling to leadership 13:56 – Why cold calling falls behind social selling 16:32 – How the digital world has changed 18:07 – Why some people don’t “get” social selling 21:09 – Timothy’s definition of social selling 24:13 – How to actually connect with people over social media 25:44 – How you can start expanding your network online 31:28 – The three things Timothy recommends social pros do 33:12 – Why content is always king 37:07 – Timothy’s advice for social pros Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Connect with Timothy on LinkedIn DLA Ignite LinkedIn Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jul 7, 2023 • 36min
How Brands Can Pass the Gen Z Social BS Test
We’re thrilled to welcome Gia Lee, Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer at NinetyEight, on the Social Pros podcast. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details How can brands connect with Gen Z in authentic, effective ways? If there’s anyone to ask that question to, it’s Gia Lee, Cco-Ffounder & and Chief Strategy Officer at NinetyEight, who joins this episode of Social Pros. NinetyEight help brands anticipate Gen Z’s needs in our ever-changing culture by finding unique perspectives, empowering communities and engaging with emerging trends. Gia tells us the origin of NinetyEight, why you don’t need big budgets to excel on social and why brands shouldn’t skip building their identity. Plus, she shares the top do’s and don’ts for brands marketing to Gen Z and the best ways to stay authentic. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 5:17 – NinetyEight’s origin story 6:04 – Challenges of creating content for Gen Z 7:23 – Why Gen Z is so different 9:56 – The disconnect between Gen Z and marketing 11:14 – Do NinetyEight educate? 12:19 – Their work with Paul Frank 20:34 – Measuring success on TikTok 23:00 – Interacting with communities 23:30 – The do’s and don’ts of marketing to Gen Z 24:31 – Authenticity on social 26:42 – Balancing brand and connection 32:14 – Gia’s Final Two 34:57 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Connect with Gia on LinkedIn Visit the NinetyEight website Follow NinetyEight on Twitter Follow NinetyEight on Instagram Join The Koi Pond Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jun 30, 2023 • 40min
Putting Heart into Business and AI with Minter Dial
Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details Empathy is vital for social media managers, but how can they put it into practice on a daily basis? Our guest on this episode says it’s “a wonderful art within management” but needs to be applied in the right way and at the right times. Minter Dial, renowned author and keynote speaker at Mydial, returns to Social Pros to discuss how to build an empathic culture in the workplace, the true definition of the word ‘empathy’ and the role it can play in your use of AI. Plus, he reveals why he released a new edition of his book, Heartificial Empathy, how empathy impacts trust and his favorite AI tools. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 5:38 – What’s new in the world of empathy? 8:55 – How people misunderstand empathy 11:31 – Empathy isn’t a weakness 15:05 – How a lack of empathy impacts trust 16:24 – Empathy and AI 18:04 – Different types of empathy 19:08 – Why we run out of empathy 20:22 – Empathy and AI (continued) 26:31 – How can we develop empathy for AI? 30:46 – Just breathe 31:51 – Minter’s favorite AI platforms 36:06 – Minter’s final two 39:01 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Visit Minter’s website Follow Minter on LinkedIn Follow Minter on Twitter Follow Minter on Instagram Follow Minter on Facebook Minter’s book – ‘Heartificial Empathy’ Minter’s book – ‘Heartificial Empathy’ on Amazon Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jun 23, 2023 • 41min
Jonah Berger on Magic Words
We are delighted to welcome Jonah Berger, Marketing Professor at The Wharton School of The University of Pennsylvania, onto this episode of Social Pros. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details The more you understand the words you use, the more you can increase the impact of your social content. But how can you change up your language choices to resonate better with your audience? Jonah Berger, Marketing Professor at The Wharton School of The University of Pennsylvania and repeat Social Pros guest, joins the show to share his thoughts. He reveals the story behind his latest book, ‘Magic Words’, how words can build trust, community and influence and why anybody can become a better writer. Plus, he tells us the hidden benefits of asking questions and why it’s essential to understand audience behaviors. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 5:25 – Jonah describes his new book 7:11 – Why did he write this book? 9:56 – Understanding the impact of magic words 13:00 – What language does 15:03 – Identity and agency 20:58 – Defining ‘magic words’ 23:49 – Jonah’s favorite category in his framework 30:21 – Asking the right questions 34:08 – Using magic words to approach challenging topics 37:36 – Jonah’s final two 39:56 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Visit Jonah’s website Connect with Jonah on LinkedIn Follow Jonah on Twitter Buy Jonah’s book, ‘Magic Words’ on Amazon Register for Jonah’s SPEACC framework Previous episodes featuring Jonah Berger Contagion, Social Media, and Why Things Catch On (2013) How Influence Can Make or Break Your Brand (2016) Psychology Shows Why Social Media Often Fails (2020) Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jun 16, 2023 • 41min
How Better Half Is Breaking Social Molds
We’re thrilled to be joined by Alyssa Bonanno, Chief Creative Officer and founder of Better Half, on this episode of Social Pros. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details Better Half help household names like Netflix, Nike and Disney succeed on social by fuelling audience participation, engagement and fandom. Their Chief Creative Officer and founder, Alyssa Bonanno, joins this episode of Social Pros to share their secrets. Alyssa explains how her small-but-mighty team thrives, the benefits of intentional hiring and how she manages consistent social output for established brands. Plus, she tells us how she built her team, dives into Better Half’s own strategy and shares why, if you can, you should take big swings on social. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 3:43 – An introduction to Better Half 5:58 – Excelling for big clients in a boutique agency 8:38 – Sustaining community engagement with Netflix 11:56 – Matching Netflix’s identity on social 14:24 – Operating in the niche vs mainstream 17:19 – Intentional hiring 21:58 – Alyssa’s team structure decisions 27:40 – How Better Half showcase their culture 30:45 – Better Half’s use of Substack 32:15 – Where to find Alyssa and Better Half 35:20 – Alyssa answers the Final Two 40:16 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Alyssa’s website Follow Alyssa on LinkedIn Follow Alyssa on Instagram Better Half website Follow Better Half on LinkedIn Follow Better Half on Instagram Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.