

Social Pros Podcast
Convince & Convert
Presented by Convince & Convert, Social Pros is one of the longest-running marketing podcasts in existence! Focused on the nexus of social media and other marketing disciplines, we bring you interviews and commentary from companies including Google, Reddit, Uber, Oracle, and many more to understand how social media impacts brand marketing, content marketing, reputation management, public relations, paid media, and much more.
After more than a decade, Social Pros is still the one podcast that brings listeners inside the minds of marketing leaders making real impact. Join us as we dive behind-the-scenes and share actionable marketing strategies that you can immediately implement.
🎙 Listen to our episodes on our website—socialpros.com—or on your favorite audio platform.
After more than a decade, Social Pros is still the one podcast that brings listeners inside the minds of marketing leaders making real impact. Join us as we dive behind-the-scenes and share actionable marketing strategies that you can immediately implement.
🎙 Listen to our episodes on our website—socialpros.com—or on your favorite audio platform.
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Jul 7, 2023 • 36min
How Brands Can Pass the Gen Z Social BS Test
We’re thrilled to welcome Gia Lee, Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer at NinetyEight, on the Social Pros podcast. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details How can brands connect with Gen Z in authentic, effective ways? If there’s anyone to ask that question to, it’s Gia Lee, Cco-Ffounder & and Chief Strategy Officer at NinetyEight, who joins this episode of Social Pros. NinetyEight help brands anticipate Gen Z’s needs in our ever-changing culture by finding unique perspectives, empowering communities and engaging with emerging trends. Gia tells us the origin of NinetyEight, why you don’t need big budgets to excel on social and why brands shouldn’t skip building their identity. Plus, she shares the top do’s and don’ts for brands marketing to Gen Z and the best ways to stay authentic. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 5:17 – NinetyEight’s origin story 6:04 – Challenges of creating content for Gen Z 7:23 – Why Gen Z is so different 9:56 – The disconnect between Gen Z and marketing 11:14 – Do NinetyEight educate? 12:19 – Their work with Paul Frank 20:34 – Measuring success on TikTok 23:00 – Interacting with communities 23:30 – The do’s and don’ts of marketing to Gen Z 24:31 – Authenticity on social 26:42 – Balancing brand and connection 32:14 – Gia’s Final Two 34:57 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Connect with Gia on LinkedIn Visit the NinetyEight website Follow NinetyEight on Twitter Follow NinetyEight on Instagram Join The Koi Pond Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jun 30, 2023 • 40min
Putting Heart into Business and AI with Minter Dial
Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details Empathy is vital for social media managers, but how can they put it into practice on a daily basis? Our guest on this episode says it’s “a wonderful art within management” but needs to be applied in the right way and at the right times. Minter Dial, renowned author and keynote speaker at Mydial, returns to Social Pros to discuss how to build an empathic culture in the workplace, the true definition of the word ‘empathy’ and the role it can play in your use of AI. Plus, he reveals why he released a new edition of his book, Heartificial Empathy, how empathy impacts trust and his favorite AI tools. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 5:38 – What’s new in the world of empathy? 8:55 – How people misunderstand empathy 11:31 – Empathy isn’t a weakness 15:05 – How a lack of empathy impacts trust 16:24 – Empathy and AI 18:04 – Different types of empathy 19:08 – Why we run out of empathy 20:22 – Empathy and AI (continued) 26:31 – How can we develop empathy for AI? 30:46 – Just breathe 31:51 – Minter’s favorite AI platforms 36:06 – Minter’s final two 39:01 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Visit Minter’s website Follow Minter on LinkedIn Follow Minter on Twitter Follow Minter on Instagram Follow Minter on Facebook Minter’s book – ‘Heartificial Empathy’ Minter’s book – ‘Heartificial Empathy’ on Amazon Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jun 23, 2023 • 41min
Jonah Berger on Magic Words
We are delighted to welcome Jonah Berger, Marketing Professor at The Wharton School of The University of Pennsylvania, onto this episode of Social Pros. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details The more you understand the words you use, the more you can increase the impact of your social content. But how can you change up your language choices to resonate better with your audience? Jonah Berger, Marketing Professor at The Wharton School of The University of Pennsylvania and repeat Social Pros guest, joins the show to share his thoughts. He reveals the story behind his latest book, ‘Magic Words’, how words can build trust, community and influence and why anybody can become a better writer. Plus, he tells us the hidden benefits of asking questions and why it’s essential to understand audience behaviors. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 5:25 – Jonah describes his new book 7:11 – Why did he write this book? 9:56 – Understanding the impact of magic words 13:00 – What language does 15:03 – Identity and agency 20:58 – Defining ‘magic words’ 23:49 – Jonah’s favorite category in his framework 30:21 – Asking the right questions 34:08 – Using magic words to approach challenging topics 37:36 – Jonah’s final two 39:56 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Visit Jonah’s website Connect with Jonah on LinkedIn Follow Jonah on Twitter Buy Jonah’s book, ‘Magic Words’ on Amazon Register for Jonah’s SPEACC framework Previous episodes featuring Jonah Berger Contagion, Social Media, and Why Things Catch On (2013) How Influence Can Make or Break Your Brand (2016) Psychology Shows Why Social Media Often Fails (2020) Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jun 16, 2023 • 41min
How Better Half Is Breaking Social Molds
We’re thrilled to be joined by Alyssa Bonanno, Chief Creative Officer and founder of Better Half, on this episode of Social Pros. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details Better Half help household names like Netflix, Nike and Disney succeed on social by fuelling audience participation, engagement and fandom. Their Chief Creative Officer and founder, Alyssa Bonanno, joins this episode of Social Pros to share their secrets. Alyssa explains how her small-but-mighty team thrives, the benefits of intentional hiring and how she manages consistent social output for established brands. Plus, she tells us how she built her team, dives into Better Half’s own strategy and shares why, if you can, you should take big swings on social. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 3:43 – An introduction to Better Half 5:58 – Excelling for big clients in a boutique agency 8:38 – Sustaining community engagement with Netflix 11:56 – Matching Netflix’s identity on social 14:24 – Operating in the niche vs mainstream 17:19 – Intentional hiring 21:58 – Alyssa’s team structure decisions 27:40 – How Better Half showcase their culture 30:45 – Better Half’s use of Substack 32:15 – Where to find Alyssa and Better Half 35:20 – Alyssa answers the Final Two 40:16 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Alyssa’s website Follow Alyssa on LinkedIn Follow Alyssa on Instagram Better Half website Follow Better Half on LinkedIn Follow Better Half on Instagram Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jun 9, 2023 • 44min
Amy Landino Reveals Why Giving Generously Pays Off
We’re thrilled to welcome back success coach, author, speaker and marketing expert Amy Landino for this episode of Social Pros. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details If you are exploring how to grow your own social presence or you’re interested in becoming a more full-time creator, this is the show to take notes on! Amy Landino, success coach, speaker, author and marketing expert, joins Social Pros to provide some amazing tips and insights for creators. She updates us on the growth of her career since her first appearance on the show (back in January 2017), shares her top tips for using videos on social and explains how she nurtures her community. Plus, she tells us why we should support – not shock – our audiences, how to best navigate algorithms and why she thinks generosity is an essential part of any successful social strategy. So much to unpack – don’t miss it! In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 3:46 – Amy returns to Social Pros (after 6 years!) 4:41 – What Amy’s up to now 9:08 – How Amy evolved into Good Morning Good Life TV 12:52 – Navigating algorithms 19:57 – How clients can own their social 24:10 – The right cadence for CTAs 29:12 – From solo to managing a team 29:33 – How Amy nurtures her community 35:34 – Setting intentions 39:17 – Amy’s book and implementing mindfulness 41:10 – Final two 43:26 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Amy’s website Follow Amy on Twitter Follow Amy on LinkedIn Subscribe to Amy on YouTube Good Morning Good Life TV Amy’s books Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

Jun 2, 2023 • 41min
How SHADOW Makes Its Clients’ Social Shine
We’re delighted to welcome Janay Smith, Director of Social at SHADOW, onto this episode of the Social Pros podcast. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details A variety of opinions, fresh ideas and different perspectives is so important in a team of social pros… which is why we were so inspired by how our guest on this episode manages her team and cultivates success. Janay Smith, Director of Social at SHADOW, joins us to talk about her career so far, top tips for multitasking and coping with burnout, plus how to attain and recognize success in this fast-paced social environment. She also reveals why community is at the root of all good social and that now is the time to relinquish control! In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 5:22 – Introducing Janay and Shadow 7:48 – How Shadow navigate clients through social 11:31 – How she approaches staffing 15:24 – Dealing with burnout 18:18 – Biggest trends on social 20:54 – Recognizing success with staff 24:04 – Indicating success 25:23 – Launching Sunbum’s TikTok 31:01 – Exploring Shadow’s social 35:29 – Janay’s final two 39:56 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Follow Janay on LinkedIn Shadow Follow Shadow on Instagram Follow Shadow on Twitter Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

May 26, 2023 • 48min
How to Become an #AntiAbleism Ally on Social
On this episode of Social Pros, we are delighted to be joined by Tiffany Yu, the CEO and founder of Diversability. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details This episode of Social Pros is truly inspirational! Our guest has used highly-challenging personal events to create something remarkable. Tiffany Yu, CEO and founder of Diversability, joins this episode of Social Pros. Tiffany shares her inspirational story of grief and coming to terms with disability. She talks about how she created positives from obstacles in order to build Diversability and how she invites social pros to support the #AntiAbleism movement. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 5:34 – Introducing Tiffany 6:06 – Tiffany’s story 10:18 – When she first shared her story 20:39 – Leveraging LinkedIn 27:36 – Her #AntiAbleism video series 34:38 – Tiffany’s (soon to be published) book 44:16 – The final two 46:54 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Diversability Tiffany’s website Follow Tiffany on Twitter Follow Tiffany on Instagram Follow Tiffany on LinkedIn Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

May 19, 2023 • 48min
Take a Paid Social Deep-Dive with Andrew Foxwell
We are delighted to welcome Andrew Foxwell, Co-Founder of Foxwell Digital, onto this episode of Social Pros. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details Need a paid social refresher? The landscape is always changing and it’s easy to get impatient for the big results. But this week’s guest provides an in-depth look at leveraging paid social and staying on top of platform changes to work towards long-term success. In this episode, we are joined by Foxwell Digital Co-Founder, Andrew Foxwell. Andrew explains how to become a better marketer and looks at common misconceptions around paid social. Plus, he tells us how to navigate the constant changes and set yourself up for success by avoiding being beholden to social platforms! A super-insightful episode for any social pro. In This Episode: 0:00 - Introduction 4:45 – What Andrew is up to 8:16 – Data best practices 17:12 – Misconceptions around paid social 23:30 – Identifying progress 27:46 – Setting up for long-term success (and breaking free from platform changes) 35:57 – Data protection vs needing that data 45:11 – Andrew’s final two 47:52 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Foxwell Digital Foxwell Digital Memberships Follow Andrew on LinkedIn Follow Andrew on Twitter Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

May 12, 2023 • 38min
How Vista Social Makes Marketing to Marketers More Human
We’re thrilled to welcome Brittany Garlin, Head of Marketing at Vista Social, on this episode of Social Pros. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details Consumers are super savvy nowadays. They don’t want convoluted, in-your-face marketing. They want something personal, down-to-earth and relatable…and this week’s guest keeps that front of mind. Brittany Garlin, Head of Marketing at Vista Social, joins this episode of the podcast. She explains Vista’s recipe for marketing to marketers, how they keep things human, authentic and relatable and how they’ve been using ChatGPT. Brittany also discusses mental health and burnout on social, defining success and why we social pros need to stay adaptable. In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 5:06 – What does Vista Social do? 9:11 – TikTok as a search engine 9:50 – Getting in the trenches with clients 11:16 – Being on camera 13:20 – Finding the right voice 14:56 – Using ChatGPT 25:08 – Staying authentic and human with AI 29:06 – Discussing mental health on social 32:44 – Measuring success/decisions on channels 34:15 – Where to follow Vista Social and Brittany 35:03 – Final two 37:22 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Vista Social Vista Social on Twitter Vista Social on Instagram Vista Social on TikTok Follow Brittany on LinkedIn Follow Brittany on Instagram Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.

May 5, 2023 • 39min
Practicing Mindfulness with Marketingprofs’ Allen Weiss
We’re thrilled to welcome Allen Weiss, CEO & Founder of MarketingProfs, on Social Pros this week for a masterclass in mental health and mindfulness. Huge thanks to our amazing sponsors for helping us make this happen. Please support them; we couldn't do it without their help! This week: Salesforce Marketing Cloud ICUC Full Episode Details As social pros, we’ve all dealt with stress, burnout and anxiety…(gee, it’s probably a daily occurrence!) But it’s so crucial we remember to take care of our minds and our souls and prioritize our mental health. On this episode of Social Pros, we are joined by Allen Weiss, CEO & Founder of MarketingProfs. Allen joins the show to discuss the benefits of mindfulness and meditation, why self-care is so important and how social pros can integrate mental health into their working routines. Plus, Allen shares top tips on when and how to meditate, and plenty of other actionable advice. We can think of so many times we’d have benefitted from taking a few moments to meditate at work – and we’re sure you can to! Save and come back to this one in times of stress! In This Episode: 0:00 – Introduction 4:44 – Time to introduce Allen 9:04 – His involvement in marketing, mental health and teaching 12:20 – How meditation changed his life 13:19 – How trauma impacted his mental health 15:46 – What is mindfulness? 20:13 – How long is long enough? 23:06 – Do you need to use an app/prompt? 25:30 – Taking a breath! 29:45 – How social media employers can implement mindfulness 35:12 – Allen’s class 37:30 – Advice for social pros 38:17 – Outro Resources Schedule a consultation with ICUC Grab your free Social Media Audit Bundle Be notified of Allen’s class Follow Allen on LinkedIn Follow Allen on Twitter Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers.