Second Nature

Darren Rayner, Founder and Head of Creative at Magnafire, specializes in crafting compelling content for leading brands like Red Bull and Arc'teryx. He discusses the transformation toward short-form media, stressing the blend of creativity and strategy necessary for success. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding platform dynamics, producing both 'hero content' and 'shoulder assets,' and adapting storytelling techniques. Rayner also shares insights on the thrill of producing high-adrenaline projects and the evolution of brand identity in athlete marketing.

Patrick Crawford has had a legendary run in the outdoor industry - launching Freeskier magazine, followed by one of the original athlete social agencies, Inkwell. During his time leading Inkwell, he worked with the top outdoor athletes in the world - as well as the brands that supported them - to launch massive projects, the Free Solo film among many others on the list. Find out what Patrick has to say about the state of Athlete and Brand social - both its history as well as its future. Show Notes: Patrick Crawford: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickrcrawford/ Cadence Media Strategy: https://www.cadencemediastrategy.com/ Zero Draft: https://zerodraft.substack.com/ Freeskier: https://freeskier.com/ Patrick - Origin Outside Interview: https://www.originoutside.com/insights/influencers-vs-content-creators-whos-winning-in-25 Scott Galloway: https://profgmedia.com/ Zero Click Internet: https://www.techspot.com/article/2908-the-zero-click-internet/ Free Solo Film: https://films.nationalgeographic.com/free-solo BPC - Brand, Product, Content: Invisible Rulers (Book): https://amzn.to/3X4e0w9 Everybody Lies (Book): https://amzn.to/41hhJc8 DuoLingo Owl Killed: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/13/nx-s1-5295597/duolingo-owl-mascot-death Billy Oppenheimer Newsletter: https://billyoppenheimer.com/february-9-2025/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Martina Brimmer founded Swift Industries 17 years ago in the basement of a punk house. Over those years, she held on to a rollercoaster of ups and downs as the business grew, adapted and survived to meet market demand. After the softening of the cycling industry post-pandemic, Martina had to make some big decisions for the survival of the business, and this incredibly transparent conversation is an honest recountain of the lessons learned and insights gained. Show Notes: Swift Industries: https://builtbyswift.com/ Swift Industries Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swiftindustries/ Revelate Designs: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/ Goldman Sachs Small Business Program: https://www.goldmansachs.com/community-impact/10000-small-businesses/ Jason Goodman: https://www.instagram.com/swift_getlost_academy/ Get Lost Adventure Series: https://builtbyswift.com/blogs/the-swift-industries-blog/sign-up-for-swift-industries-get-lost-academy Swift Social Ride: https://builtbyswift.com/pages/swift-social-ride Stoked Spoke Adventure Series: https://gearhouse.eventcalendarapp.com/u/49431/358272 Swift Campout: https://builtbyswift.com/blogs/the-swift-industries-blog/the-campout-navigators-color-the-valley Founded Outdoors: https://foundedoutdoors.com/ BPC: Brand, Product, Content: Topo Designs: https://topodesigns.com/ DB Clay DIY Wallet: https://www.dbclay.com/dtwk/p/black Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Jeff Pelletier is an established filmmaker, content creator and successful agency owner - among many other things. He sits down with Aaron to compare notes on the YouTube journey and provides insights and actionable advice for other aspiring content creators looking to build a community. Show Notes: Jeff Pelletier: https://www.youtube.com/@JeffPelletier Jeff's Website: https://jeffpelletier.com/ BaseTwo Media: https://videoforbusiness.ca/ Billy Yang: https://www.billyyang.com/ Crunchlabs: https://www.crunchlabs.com/ Beau Miles: https://www.youtube.com/beaumiles BPC - Brand, Product, Content: Jenny Tough: https://www.youtube.com/@JennyTough_ Jenny's Book - Solo: https://amzn.to/4jRbcfl DJI Osmo Pocket 3: https://amzn.to/4hQyMap DJI Lav Microphones: https://amzn.to/3EuXO0t Snickers Protein Bars: https://amzn.to/3EqkO0s Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Cassie Abel is the founder and CEO of Wild Rye, a brand that celebrates the duality of athletes with gear for both snow and mountain biking. In this podcast, we dive into the history of the brand as she launched with a co-founder, looked for signals that they were on the right track, and rode the exhausting rollercoaster of manufacturing, marketing and everything in between as the brand experienced growth. Find out how a Craiglist post became an inflection point for the brand - and where the brand is headed next! Show Notes: Wild Rye: https://wild-rye.com/ Cassie Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassie-abel-5853787/ Women-Led Wednesday: https://womenledwednesday.com/ How I Built This - Sara Blakely: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spanx-sara-blakely/id1150510297?i=1000396023160 How I Built This - Whitney Wolfe: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bumble-whitney-wolfe-2017/id1150510297?i=1000436036734 Tory Burch Foundation: https://www.toryburchfoundation.org/ Title Nine: https://www.titlenine.com/ BPC - Brand, Product, Content: Salomon QST Skis: https://www.salomon.com/en-us/shop/sports/alpine-skiing/skis/freeride.html Eliot Jackson - "Ode To LA": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDthZQI7G4c Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Founder and publisher of Like The Wind magazine, Simon Freeman, joins the podcast to talk about media models and the different approaches that are available to explore for media operators. Show Notes: Like The Wind: https://www.likethewindmagazine.com/ Mario Fraioli: https://themorningshakeout.com/ Surfers Journal: https://www.surfersjournal.com/ Jonathan Levitt Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4GWhpYsx48 The Rebooting: https://www.therebooting.com/ Wirecutter: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/ Matt Trappe's Article: https://substack.com/home/post/p-155444935 Red Bull Content Pool: https://www.redbullcontentpool.com/ BPC - Brand, Product, Content: Sponsor Magnet (Book): https://amzn.to/4hFkxoT The Purple Runner (Book): https://amzn.to/3EoBBkI American Football: https://www.nfl.com/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Reflecting on the recent pod with the co-founders of Skratch, Dylan and Aaron take a closer look at their approach to running their own businesses. Leadership, profit versus impact, scaling versus staying small, funding and business models. Maybe most important - what time horizon are we using to make all these decisions - are we truly playing the infinite game? Show Notes: Freetrail: https://www.freetrail.com Super Rider: https://www.youtube.com/@SuperRiderTV Gary Keller "The One Thing" (Book): https://amzn.to/4hCpBdy RXR Sports: https://www.rxrsports.com/ Voicing Change: https://www.voicingchange.media/#home Job Of The Week: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/director-of-partnerships-at-voicing-change-media-4128241311/ Rich Roll x Steve Magnus Podcast: https://www.richroll.com/podcast/steve-magness-887/ BPC - Brand, Product, Content: The Heart Speaks (Book): https://amzn.to/4jD33et Chipotle x Strava Challenge: https://citychallenge.chipotle.com/ The Battle For Burritos: https://runningmagazine.ca/the-scene/arizona-ultrarunners-battle-in-ridiculous-strava-challenge/ Jamil Coury Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1055184 Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Skratch won our award for "Brand Of The Year" in 2024, and the main reason was because we respected their approach to playing the infinite game: making decisions rooted in long term stability. So many brands in their position would angle for acquisition and an exit strategy, but that is not on their radar. The discipline and vision that it takes to stay true to that ethos is evident in this conversation with co-founders Allen Lim and Ian MacGregor. Show Notes: Skratch: https://skratchlabs.com 2024 Year In Review (Blog): https://www.skratchlabs.com/blogs/life-skills/2024-year-in-review Vern Harnish - Scaling Up: https://amzn.to/4jN5VWq McGuckin Hardware: https://www.mcguckin.com/ Zingerman's Guide: https://amzn.to/4azJrnv The Infinite Game: https://amzn.to/42B52dq Christina Chase - MIT Sports Lab: https://sportslab.mit.edu/ Peter Kim - Applied Exercise Science: https://www.colorado.edu/iphy/research Skratch in Paris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyPGaQHvF6c Skratch Cafe: https://www.skratchlabs.com/pages/cafe Chef Biju Thomas: https://www.instagram.com/bijuthechef/ BPC: Brand, Product, Content Ian - Integrating Ski Areas: https://coloradosun.com/2024/11/26/nederland-vying-to-buy-eldora/ Allen - Bosch E-Bikes: https://www.bosch-ebike.com/us/ebikes Aaron - Gawx x Digital Spaghetti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDAqyQIaUPY Dylan - Aaron Rogers "Enigma": https://www.netflix.com/title/81757010 Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Dylan and Aaron reconnect to share the different approaches they are taking toward success in the outdoor industry in 2025 - digging into goals, frameworks and vision (and then some). They also riff on the new team launched by Kate Courtney (She Sends Racing) and why it matters a lot more than just the typical factory sponsorship announcement. Show Notes: Kate Courtney: She Sends Racing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ptuCHv_adE Alex Honnold Foundation: https://www.honnoldfoundation.org/ She Sends Foundation: https://www.shesends.it/ Kilian's Foundation: https://www.kilianjornetfoundation.org/ Be Good Foundation: https://www.thebegoodfoundation.org/ Protect Our Winters: https://protectourwinters.org/ James Jackson - Mantle Mindset: https://www.instagram.com/mantlemindset/ Atomic Habits: https://protectourwinters.org/ Entrepreneur Operating System: https://www.eosworldwide.com/ Aaron's Cold Brew Setup: https://amzn.to/4jIo9bA Alpine Start: https://alpinestartfoods.com/ BPC - Brand, Product, Content: DB Clay: Begin Again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpMCoBUEQ2Q Freetrail: Begin Again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgUoVvMB2ns Never Second - C30: https://never2.com/products/c30-energy-gel-12ct-60ml Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Allison Lynch has the depth of experience that most marketers could only dream of having. As an early employee at Whoop, she had hands-on involvement in all the levers of marketing (and beyond). Athletes and content ended up becoming a big part of her role, which put her squarely in competition with Second Nature host, Aaron Lutze (who lead content + community at Oura). With both roles in their past, this episode is a chance for them to regroup and compare notes on their experiences - as well as what it taught them about the future of marketing. Show Notes: Allison's website: https://www.allisonmary.com/ Allison Lynch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allison-lynch-76b48652/ Allison's Substack: https://notaconversationalpace.substack.com/ Whoop: https://www.whoop.com/ Oura: https://ouraring.com/ Allison's Article on Matter Of Brand: https://amatterofbrand.substack.com/p/influencers-vs-athletes-the-bubble Sara Vaughn: https://www.youtube.com/@smevaughn Mali Noyes: https://www.youtube.com/@malinoyes BPC - Brand, Product, Content: Saucony x Minted: https://mintednewyork.com/products/speed4 Salomon x Kith: https://kith.com/collections/salomon Gabby x Vogue: https://www.vogue.com/article/how-sports-and-fashion-fell-in-love-angel-reese-gabby-thomas-frances-tiafoe Hoka - Run Stop Corner Shop: https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/news/a63441861/hoka-run-stop-corner-shop/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia