
Second Nature
The business of outdoor hosted by Aaron Lutze & Dylan Bowman
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Jan 8, 2025 • 1h 7min
Second Nature Outdoor Industry Awards
We haven't figured out how to spell it yet, but at least we came through with the awards for our favorite brands, product, content and athletes. Dylan and Aaron share their favorites from the year, as well as a look at what's in store for the year ahead. Show Notes: Skratch Labs: https://www.skratchlabs.com/ Hoka: https://www.hoka.com/ Raide Research: https://raideresearch.com/ Garmin Enduro 3: https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/851039 DJI Osmo Pocket 3: https://store.dji.com/product/osmo-pocket-3 Deathgrip 2 Film: https://www.deathgrip2movie.com/ Team Sport Film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEg_p1Lw2l4 Berm Peak: https://bermpeak.substack.com/ Katie Schide: https://www.instagram.com/katieschide/ Jesse Itzler Pancake Theory: https://milled.com/jesseitzler.com/free-swim-the-first-pancake-theory-y69p39H1fz4J5aAg Hoffman Process: https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Jan 3, 2025 • 1h 8min
Red Bull And The Power Of Field Marketing
John Paradine was there on Day One of Red Bull, when the first can was officially sold in the USA. In this podcast, he shares stories about the way Red Bull established themselves in the USA - and the unorthodox ways they went about building the marketing organization (and their approach to ROI). Field Marketing was (and still is) a huge element in Red Bull's marketing mix, and on this podcast we share the insights of how anyone (brand, operator or creator) could utilize that mindset to be successful. Show Notes: John Paradine (Linked In): https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnparadine/ Robby Naish: https://www.redbull.com/us-en/athlete/robby-naish Shane McConkey: https://snowbrains.com/15-years-gone-still-inspiring-shane-mcconkey1/ Pete Moran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-moran-348a154/ San Francisco Peninsula: https://www.thesanfranciscopeninsula.com/ SF Peninsula Super Rider Project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqGcGxmvGw BPC: Trail Karma (desktop version only): https://www.trailforks.com The War Of Art (book): https://amzn.to/3BVzvYq Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Dec 31, 2024 • 1h 32min
2025 Outdoor Industry Predictions
What does the future hold for the outdoor industry? Matt Trappe and Steve Holmberg join Aaron on this week's podcast to share their predictions for the year ahead. Also included, hot takes and predictions from the community, and a bonus Galaxy Brain about the future of Second Nature. Show Notes: Matt Trappe (Linked In): https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-trappe/ Matt Trappe (Substack): https://amatterofbrand.substack.com/ Steve Holmberg (Linked In): https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenholmberg/ Steve Holmberg (Substack): https://steveholmberg.substack.com/ Insight Accelerator: https://www.stephenholmberg.com/ Auteur Sportif: https://auteursportif.com/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Dec 27, 2024 • 52min
The Futurist Project: Outdoor Leadership Academy
The Futurist Project is an outdoor industry leadership academy that is currently accepting applications for their upcoming class. Thirty people who represent the future of the outdoor industry will be accepted to the sixth month program that includes in person, virtual and mentor-based training and support. On the podcast, Sablle Stahl and Vince Mazzuca share the details about The Futurist Academy, the application process, and what the attendees can expect. Show Notes: Sablle Stahl: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sablle/ Vince Mazzuca: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vince-mazzuca-58b14a1a/ The Futurist Project: https://thefuturistproject.com/ APPLY For The Futurist Project: https://thefuturistproject.com/pages/apply Skip Yowell: https://www.outinunder.com/content/trailblazer-skip-yowell Great Basin National Park Foundation: https://www.greatbasinfoundation.org/ Runners for Public Lands: https://runnersforpubliclands.org/ Nakoa Adventures: https://nakoaadventure.com/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Dec 24, 2024 • 1h 14min
The Business Of Athlete Sponsorships: Patrick Lemieux
Any elite athlete would tell you that it takes a village to support their ability to achieve their goals throughout the season. A big part of that support comes through partnerships, and in today's episode of Second Nature, we have a deep conversation about athlete partnerships with Patrick Lemieux. He's the person connecting the dots between athletes and partners for mega athletes like Lionel Sanders and Taylor Knibb, to name a few. Show Notes: Pat Lemieux: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lemieux-5a9aa91a6/ Lemieux Group: https://www.lemieux.group/ Lionel Sanders: https://www.lionelsanders.com/ Taylor Knibb: https://www.instagram.com/taylorknibb/ Kat Matthews: https://www.katrinamatthewstri.com/ Tom Pidcock Deal: https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tom-pidcock-to-ride-a-pinarello-in-off-road-racing-but-use-a-scott-on-the-road-with-q365/ Andrew McQuaid (Agent): https://www.trinitysportsmanagement.com/andrew-mcquaid Gravel World Champs: https://ucigravelworldseries.com/en/world-championships/ T100 Series: https://t100triathlon.com/ Michael Moritz: https://www.forbes.com/profile/michael-moritz/ Chris Voss - Never Split The Difference (Book): https://amzn.to/3VHxLZu BPC: Athletic Brewing: https://athleticbrewing.com/ Pro Tri News (podcast): https://protrinews.buzzsprout.com/ Aaron's SF Tourism Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqGcGxmvGw Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Dec 20, 2024 • 56min
Zip Allen: Strava's Year In Sport
Chief Business Officer of Strava, Zip Allen, joins the podcast to talk about Strava's Year In Sport, how Strava approaches product design, and the future of the platform. We dive into the unique partnership approach that Strava pursues and how Zip's past work is informing the future of Strava. Show Notes: Zip on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zipporah-allen-6282721/ Strava: https://www.strava.com Strava Year In Sport: https://press.strava.com/articles/strava-releases-annual-year-in-sport-trend Larissa Rivers: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larissarivers/ Strava Partners: https://partners.strava.com/ VeloViewer: https://veloviewer.com/ LaCol Cycling: https://lecol.cc/pages/le-col-tour-strava-challenge Athlete Intelligence: https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/26786795557005-Athlete-Intelligence-on-Strava-Beta Taco Bell Marathon: https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/san-francisco-taco-bell-marathon-19652016.php Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Dec 17, 2024 • 1h
Speedland: What Happens Next?
Kevin Fallon and Dave Dombrow join Second Nature today to talk about the evolution of Speedland from the early days of starting up until now. They've passed through multiple inflection points on their journey to establish the brand, and this discussion digs into the topics of focus and discipline as they build both the brand and the business. Show Notes: Speedland: https://www.runspeedland.com/ The Running Event: https://www.therunningevent.com/ Birkenstock Speedlands: https://www.instagram.com/p/C3seRioLqy3/ Everyone makes everything: https://www.hereandthere.club/post/everyone-makes-everything Under Armour x Speedland Collab (Infinite Mega): https://meta-endurance.com/under-armour-2025-line-up-preview/ TNF x Skims: https://skims.com/pages/the-north-face-x-skims Safe Notes: https://www.angellist.com/learn/safe-note Freetrail: https://freetrail.com/ Topher Gaylord: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tophergaylord/ RX:FPY: https://run.outsideonline.com/gear/a-sneak-peek-at-the-hottest-running-shoes-coming-out-in-2025/ Don Reichelt: https://www.runspeedland.com/blogs/athletes/meet-don-reichelt-speedland-athlete Gear Junkie Best In Show: https://gearjunkie.com/footwear/running-footwear/best-in-show-running-event-2024 Freetrail x Speedland Pod (2022): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speedland-my-new-footwear-sponsor/id1492327668?i=1000547669554 Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Dec 13, 2024 • 1h 3min
Behind The Most Viral Sports Videos
Stu Thomson, Founder/CEO of Cut Media, joins Second Nature to talk about the way his creative and production agency works with athletes, and how that flywheel opens doors for everyone to produce their best work. Cut Media has produced viral sports sensations like Danny MacAskill's Imaginate (94M views), The Ridge (80M views), F1 vs Drone (24M views) and plenty more. Show Notes: Stu Thomson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuthomson/ Cut Media: https://cutmedia.com/ Industrial Revolutions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbC5yVqOdI Inspired Bicycles - Danny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o Dave Sowerby: https://www.instagram.com/davesowerby/ Danny Day Care: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj0CmnxuTaQ Drive to Survive: https://www.netflix.com/title/80204890 Santa Cruz 5010 Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95gEtoGmYWI F1 vs Drone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEqyr_uT-k World’s Best FPV Drone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13OtZFWdhwQ Fresh Cuts: https://cutmedia.com/blog/introducing-fresh-cuts Screen Scotland: https://www.screen.scot/ The Ridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_IQS3VKjA BPC: Grand Slam Track: https://cutmedia.com/work/grand-slam-track Alpine Run Project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQZEcywnYok Danny Gymnasium: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAEBNEscL0c Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Dec 10, 2024 • 1h 3min
The Value of B2B Partnerships In The Outdoor Industry
Michael Peters, Director of Corporate Partnerships for KOA, joins the podcast this week to share his perspective and experience around B2B partnerships. We talk about value exchange, growth vs credibility partnerships, and the best way to do cold outreach for partnerships. Show Notes: Michael Peters: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-peters-300782b/ KOA: https://koa.com/ Outdoor Hospitality Report 2024: https://koa.com/north-american-camping-report/ Holo Footwear: https://holofootwearinc.com/collaborations/koa-campgrounds/ Hest: https://hest.com/ Sensible Weather: https://www.sensibleweather.com/ USA Bobsled Team: https://rvbusiness.com/koa-renews-partnership-with-usa-bobsled-skeleton-team/ KOA x NASCAR: https://ownakoa.com/2024/11/20/kampgrounds-of-america-inc-partners-with-jr-motorsports-bringing-camping-to-the-racetrack/ Connor Zilisch: https://www.instagram.com/connorzilisch/?hl=en BPC: Brand - Hest: https://hest.com/ Product - Outdoor Element "Fire-biner": https://outdoorelement.com/products/firebiner-carabiner Content - Culture Is The New Leadership (Book): https://amzn.to/3ZAblvV Prenuvo Scan: http://www.prenuvo.com Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Dec 6, 2024 • 1h 7min
Mel Strong: From Nike to Next Ventures
From Nike to Next Ventures, Mel Strong has mentored talent from every end of the spectrum - leading giant teams at Nike in their women's, running and skateboarding divisions, and now investing in early stage startups through Next Ventures. We dig into her history at Nike, and how that informed and motivated a big shift to the world of venture capital. In the outdoor industry, understanding the impact of a VC has many pros and cons, and in this podcast, we tackle both sides of it. Mel Strong: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melanie-strong/ Nike SB: https://www.nike.com/skateboarding Sandy Bodecker: https://www.sneakerfreaker.com/news/r-i-p-the-godfather-of-nike-sb-sandy-bodecker/ Breaking 2 Project: https://www.nike.com/gb/running/breaking2 Joan Benoit Samuelson: https://www.instagram.com/joanbenoitsamuelson/ Next Ventures: https://www.nextventures.com/ Oura x Dexcom News: https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/19/oura-valued-at-5b-following-deal-with-medical-device-firm-dexcom/ Oura Ring: https://ouraring.com/ Swimming With Allocators: https://swimmingwithallocators.com/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia