
How To Succeed In Product Management | Jeffrey Shulman, Red Russak & Soumeya Benghanem
Learn from some of the best product managers in the world through conversations hosted by The Product Management Center at the University of Washington. In each episode, Jeff Shulman, Red Russak, and Soumeya Benghanem dive into the tools, frameworks, and thought processes that will help drive success in product management.
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Jul 5, 2023 • 55min
Best of 2022: The Tactics of Effective Roadmapping
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Arvind Dutta (Microsoft) to talk about roadmaps and prioritization. A roadmap isn’t simply a to-do list that anyone can change or check off. It is a consolidated plan and execution that helps the product team prioritize and progress through the product development more organized and productive.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
03:05 Why roadmapping and prioritization are important
06:23 Who owns the roadmap?
09:11 Avoid turning the roadmap into a to-do list
16:39 Know the audience the roadmap is aimed at
24:09 Question-based approach roadmap
33:14 The product team should make the roadmap work for them
39:43 Other tools effective in implementing a roadmap
42:41 Providing updates to the upper management
48:39 Where the real value lies
51:02 The ability to prioritize and drive clarity through roadmap

Jun 28, 2023 • 51min
Best of 2021: How to Ace Product Management Interviews
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Martie K. Burris (Salesforce) to discuss product management interview strategies. To land the best PM role in the best company, you have to master the art of acing any and all product management interviews. Listen in to the techniques experienced PMs use, their strategies that have worked, and their proven and tested frameworks.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
02:10 The Inclusive Product Management Accelerator program
06:10 PM interviews have evolved over time
09:11 What is the purpose of a PM interview?
13:36 Lead PM interviews focus more on the strategy
14:48 The type of questions to prepare for
17:25 Find resources and practice with other people
20:14 The Do’s and Don’ts of PM interview
24:20 Summarize your answer at the end
26:03 Your framework should be your natural thought process
31:01 How to handle rejection
33:47 Is MBA a necessary requirement?
39:55 Strategies to get into the right interview
45:43 Interview people with empathy and listen more
48:45 Be mindful that people are trying to understand your thought process

Jun 21, 2023 • 48min
90: Blockchain Product Management
Consider hiring diverse talent from the Inclusive Product Management Accelerator – https://hire.info.foster.uw.edu/
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman, The Product Management Center advisory board member Soumeya Benghanem, and Associate Director Kara Fichthorn welcome Xilin Zhang (Protocol Labs) and Chetana Desai (NEAR Protocol) as they discuss Blockchain Product Management. Blockchain technology plays a crucial role in product management by offering transparent, secure, and decentralized data storage and management solutions. Its ability to provide real-time tracking and verification of products throughout the supply chain enhances efficiency. By employing smart contracts, blockchain automates payment and delivery processes, reducing administrative burdens and fostering trust among stakeholders. Furthermore, blockchain's potential extends to safeguarding intellectual property rights and revolutionizing conventional marketplaces by facilitating the creation of decentralized platforms for product transactions.
Disclaimer: All opinions of the speakers are their own.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
05:28 What is blockchain?
07:32 Blockchain and product management
11:36 Skills to learn to be a good PM in Web3
16:25 Difference between Web2 and Web3
17:57 What industries can Web3 and Blockchain transform?
20:13 The different layers of Blockchain
25:10 How to become a PM in Web3
32:25 Working in a constantly changing environment
37:11 The future of the financial side of blockchain
39:39 Open source for blockchain
43:41 Blockchain technology to innovate the HR space
45:19 Final thoughts

Jun 14, 2023 • 49min
89: Empowering Good Decision-Making
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board member Soumeya Benghanem welcome Michele Lundahl (T-Mobile) as they discuss how to empower good decision-making. Product managers play a crucial role in empowering good decision making within their teams. By fostering a culture of trust, collaboration, and open communication, they enable team members to contribute their diverse perspectives and insights. Empowering decision making encourages ownership and accountability, leading to better outcomes and innovation. By providing the necessary guidance and resources, product managers ensure that their teams have the autonomy and support needed to make informed decisions that align with the overall product vision and goals.
Disclaimer: All opinions of the speakers are their own.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
01:17 Why should we empower good decision-making?
04:26 Inclusivity in decision-making
07:12 Pushbacks on decision
09:19 Three opportunity rule
10:56 Framework to better understand different types of decisions
13:47 Coaching teams to feel empowered about their role
15:36 Handling unavoided impacts
17:33 Training ourselves to be willing to empower others
19:08 Strategic and execution decision
22:37 Leaders in decision-making
25:43 Should leaders get into the weeds?
27:51 How can leaders share knowledge in a way that empowers good decision-making?
30:00 What is a good decision?
31:31 When someone is not in favor of your decision
33:34 Decision processes within product organizations
36:03 How do you help your team to not overthink a decision?
39:05 When a bad decision is made by your team
45:20 Final thoughts

Jun 7, 2023 • 54min
88: How Sleep Affects Leadership & Creativity + How to Sleep Better
The application window for the Inclusive Product Management Accelerator runs June 8, 2023 to June 20, 2023. Learn more and apply at http://ipma.info.foster.uw.edu
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem and Associate Director Kara Fichthorn welcome Christopher M. Barnes (Foster School of Business) as they discuss how sleep could affect different aspects of our life and being a PM. Lack of sleep impairs cognitive functions such as decision-making, problem-solving, and creativity, which are vital skills for PMs. Sleep-deprived individuals may struggle to focus and prioritize tasks effectively, leading to poor decision-making and decreased productivity. Additionally, sleep deprivation can negatively affect communication and collaboration skills, as fatigue can hinder effective teamwork and stakeholder management. Overall, sleep deprivation undermines the ability of PMs to perform their roles efficiently and effectively, ultimately impacting the success of their projects and teams.
Disclaimer: All opinions of the speakers are their own.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
05:02 Understanding sleep and its effect on PM
08:37 Cyberloafing
09:16 Opportunity and identification as it relates to sleep
12:13 Sleep and creativity
15:03 Should I sleep on it?
16:06 Effects of sleep on leadership
20:09 Taking naps
22:36 Alternatives for sleep
25:36 Working on sleeping hours
31:21 The quality vs. quantity of sleep
33:11 Sleep disorders
40:41 Other treatments for sleep apnea
45:45 Starting work at different times
50:29 Final thoughts

May 31, 2023 • 57min
87: Emotional Product Management
Applications for the Inclusive Product Management Accelerator open June 8th. Learn more at foster.uw.edu/ipm-accelerator
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Avinoam Zelenko (LinkedIn) as they discuss the emotional side of product management. Successful PMs understand user frustrations, desires, and aspirations, using emotional insight to improve the product. They foster collaboration and motivation through empathy, active listening, and effective communication. Moreover, they prioritize self-care, embracing self-compassion to navigate challenges and setbacks, benefiting personal growth and effective leadership.
Disclaimer: All opinions of the speakers are their own.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
02:38 Emotional side of product management
07:43 ELMR framework
11:39 Focus on internal work too
13:40 Kindness is clarity
16:04 How to be kind when others are not?
20:20 Get feedback from close people and mimic how others interact with certain personalities
22:15 How salespeople manage their emotions?
26:42 Balancing emotions of external and internal stakeholders
33:58 Let your team be comfortable to ask questions
35:02 Showing your emotions when applying for a remote PM role
41:24 “Intuition is more important than being data driven…”
50:51 Can emotions help measure success and risk?
53:35 Final thoughts

May 24, 2023 • 57min
86: How PMs Manage Energy and Mental Health
Leslie Thomas Jr. from Microsoft discusses how product managers manage their energy and mental health in this episode. Topics include identifying energy drainers, bringing the team along in the journey, gratitude, separating from work, using anxiety to advantage, setting boundaries, and strategies for mental well-being.

May 17, 2023 • 54min
85: Thriving in a Product Led Organization
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Michael W. Lam (Zoom) as they discuss how to thrive in a product led organization. PMs can thrive in a product-led organization by adopting a data-driven mindset, leveraging customer insights to inform decision-making, and prioritizing cross-functional collaboration to align teams and drive innovation. By staying attuned to market trends, embracing agile methodologies, and fostering a customer-centric culture, PMs can navigate the dynamic landscape, deliver exceptional products, and achieve long-term success in a product-led organization.
Disclaimer: All opinions of the speakers are their own.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
05:54 What’s a product led organization?
06:54 Important for the customer vs. PMs
09:15 Building instead of outsourcing
17:34 Aligning product teams for success
21:37 How to thrive in a product led organization
24:31 Product leaders protecting their products from salespeople
25:37 Recognize the product you’re building and who it is for
29:47 Main differences between product led organizations and other organizations
32:09 Data vs. Emotions
40:04 Free trials and free tiers products
45:06 Risk Assessment Framework
51:40 Final thoughts

May 10, 2023 • 55min
84: Developing a Team Culture
Join us in Seattle for the Inclusive Product Management Summit on May 12th and May 13th. Info at https://summit.info.foster.uw.edu/
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman welcomes Michael Broome (Vituity) and John Mark Nickels (Waymo) as they discuss how PMs can develop a team culture. PMs play a critical role in creating and shaping the culture of their teams. Team culture refers to the shared beliefs, values, attitudes, and behaviors that shape the way a group of individuals works together towards a common goal. As a PM, it is important to be intentional about creating and shaping the culture of your team to ensure that it aligns with the values and goals of the organization.
Disclaimer: All opinions of the speakers are their own.
Resources:
Foster the Product: Leading teams and aligning stakeholders toward a common vision - Foster Blog (uw.edu)
Lead from the Core: The 4 Principles for Profit and Prosperity - Jay Steinfeld
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
05:00 How PMs can develop a team culture
06:34 When does a team culture become important
08:43 The right time to start developing a team culture
09:59 Learning team dynamics through sport
12:26 The four ingredients of a team
15:12 When it works for the team but not for an individual
20:07 How to have difficult conversations with your team
21:30 Getting a group to work together
23:58 Having a strategic goal
25:58 The importance of clarity in vision and strategy
29:34 How to learn and celebrate from mistakes
34:31 Frameworks to bring out the best in you
39:00 Motivating teams to reach their potential and set aside personal ego
41:08 Tips to develop a team culture
43:00 Having difficult conversations with people you report to and incentives for a team
47:41 Final thoughts

13 snips
May 3, 2023 • 56min
83: Becoming Product-Led
Join us in Seattle for the Inclusive Product Management Summit on May 12th and May 13th. Info at https://summit.info.foster.uw.edu/
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board member Soumeya Benghanem welcomes Tatyana Mamut (Reforge) as they discuss being in a product-led organization. Becoming a product-led is crucial for PMs because it puts the customer experience at the forefront of decision-making. By focusing on building products that users love and find value in, product-led organizations can drive growth, increase customer loyalty, and gain a competitive advantage in the market. This approach requires a deep understanding of customer needs, constant experimentation, and a willingness to prioritize the long-term success of the product over short-term gains. By adopting a product-led mindset, product managers can build products that not only meet customer needs but also drive business success.
Disclaimer: All opinions of the speakers are their own.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
04:38 What is a product-led organization?
06:28 From customer-centric to being product-led
09:12 The difference between the needs of the business and the needs of the customer
10:36 Should everyone in the organization have a product-led mindset?
14:27 The Hooked Framework
18:49 What role should people play in building a product-led mindset?
22:06 Balancing customer needs and revenue
26:48 The biggest challenge for a PM in a product-led organization
35:27 Can a lean product development process fit within a product-led organization?
38:25 Minimum viable product vs. Minimum lovable product
40:18 The best way to start a product-led team
43:57 Build something that somebody will be willing to pay for
45:38 Metrics that matter in a product-led organization
47:48 Other resources to learn more about product-led organizations
49:32 Final thoughts
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